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CHAIRMAN INDICTED: Rickenbacker faces federal corruption charges

By GENE CRIDER T&D City EditorThursday, June 29, 2006

John Rickenbacker has been indicted by a federal grand jury and suspended from public office following allegations the longtime leader of Orangeburg County Council was caught in bribery sting.

An indictment unsealed Wednesday alleges Rickenbacker took $50,000 from an FBI officer posing as a consultant for a company wanting to buy The Regional Medical Center.

In exchange for the money, he gave the agent an advance copy of a study of hospital finances, along with a promise to use his influence in getting Orangeburg and Calhoun counties to agree to sell the publicly owned hospital, according to the indictment.

He allegedly asked for the bribes even as Orangeburg County Council was trying to decide whether to spend $75,000 for a private consultant to study the financial health of the hospital.

Rickenbacker pleaded not guilty to the charges in U.S. District Court in Columbia Wednesday afternoon. He was released on $100,000 unsecured bond, meaning he did not have to put up any money to be released.

Rickenbacker refused to talk to reporters as he left the courthouse, but released a statement saying, "I am genuinely grieved at the embarrassment and pain these accusations will cause my family and constituents. I have attempted in my lifetime to faithfully perform my duties as a public official.

"I have served this state and my beloved Orangeburg County with a strong commitment to improving the quality of life for all of its citizens. I recognize these charges are a blight on my record of accomplishments."

Rickenbacker was charged with bribery concerning programs receiving federal funds and with extortion under color of official right, both stemming from the allegation that he took money to influence the sale of the hospital. If he's convicted on the bribery count, he could face a fine of $250,000 and 10 years in prison. The extortion charge carries a maximum fine of $250,000 and 20 years in prison.

Gov. Mark Sanford suspended Rickenbacker from his County Council seat Wednesday after receiving word of the indictment. The suspension will remain in effect until it is decided whether he is guilty or innocent of the charges.

Orangeburg Consolidated School District 5, which employs Rickenbacker as an assistant principal at Bethune-Bowman High School, had not received official word of the indictment Wednesday afternoon, spokesman Greg Carson said. The issue will be handled as a personnel matter.

The federal grand jury indicted Rickenbacker on June 21. U.S. Attorney Reginald I. Lloyd said the indictment remained sealed, in part, so as not to influence ongoing election primaries by injecting cynicism in the process, although Rickenbacker was not on the ballot.

The indictment was announced during a morning press conference at the Columbia FBI office held by state and federal law enforcement officials announcing the creation of a Public Corruption Task Force. The release followed a week of rumors and speculation about whether Rickenbacker, who was elected County Council chairman in January 1995, would be facing federal charges.

The series of events leading to the indictment began just before County Council's final decision to hire Chicago-based Ponder & Co. to do an analysis of the hospital's finances and operations. Council members said the study was not designed to prepare for the sale of the hospital.

As late a June 6, Rickenbacker said the study was not a prelude to sale or lease of the hospital.

A consultant working for an unnamed hospital company met with Rickenbacker on Nov. 3 to discuss the company's possible purchase of TRMC, according to the indictment. It alleges Rickenbacker solicited cash payments from the consultant for his assistance and eventual support for the company's purchase or lease of the hospital.

For $5,000 a month, he allegedly agreed to provide the consultant - and no other company bidding for the hospital - a copy of the confidential evaluation of the hospital once it was complete to give it an advantage in the bidding process for the hospital.

On Nov. 7, Orangeburg County Council agreed to hire Ponder & Co. to conduct the study.

The consultant later introduced Rickenbacker to an FBI agent posing as another consultant for the hospital company. Rickenbacker would later meet the agent a total of six times between December 2005 and May 2006. The FBI agent said he gave Rickenbacker a total of $50,000 in cash payments during that time.

The indictment claims Rickenbacker gave the agent a copy of the Ponder and Co. report on May 17. The study was presented to Orangeburg and Calhoun county councils during a closed door meeting on June 15. A copy with portions blacked-out was provided to The Times and Democrat on June 16.

Lloyd would not provide information beyond what was listed in the indictment, including the name of the company that sought to purchase or lease the hospital except "this is a company that operates nationally and had an interest in purchasing the hospital."

The case "came to us through a tip, so to speak, and it was followed up on," Lloyd said. The case was investigated by the FBI and the State Law Enforcement Division. Lloyd said federal guidelines do not allow him to confirm or deny whether someone else is being investigated.

"It's always a bittersweet moment to have to deal with these type situations," Lloyd said.

Rickenbacker entered the courthouse an hour before his 3 p.m. hearing before U.S. Magistrate Joseph R. McCrorey. During the hearing, the judge informed Rickenbacker of his rights and ensured he understood the charges against him.

Afterward, Rickenbacker remained in the courthouse with his two attorneys while reporters and photographers waited outside for him to leave the courthouse. They left as a black Maxima pulled up in front of the courthouse, saying nothing to shouted questions as Johnson handed out a prepared release. They left in the Maxima.

In his statement, Rickenbacker said, "Obviously, my lawyers, I.S. Leevy Johnson and Byron Gipson, and I have not had sufficient time to examine the purported evidence. We will make appropriate motions and conduct a thorough investigation in order to make a decision how my defense should be handled."

He said he would make no further comment on the issue and asked the press not to contact him.

The Public Corruption Task Force has recently been formed and did not investigate the Rickenbacker case. Law enforcement officials say the case is an example of what can happen when state and federal agencies work together.

The FBI, SLED, U.S. Attorney's Office, S.C. Attorney General's Office and the Internal Revenue Service are all involved in the task force.

The FBI has created a Web link for people wanting to report corruption, reportcorruption.fbi.gov. Concerned citizens can also contact the task force at (803) 551-4200 or (803) 737-9000.

Governor suspends Rickenbacker; Wimberly to serve as council chair

By LEE HENDREN, T&D Staff Writer

Gov. Mark Sanford signed an executive order Wednesday afternoon immediately suspending John H. Rickenbacker from his Orangeburg County Council seat.

"This suspension shall remain in effect until such time as he shall be formally acquitted" of the charges listed in a federal grand jury indictment that was unsealed earlier in the day, the order says.

If he is convicted of the charges against him, the governor will remove him from office.

Rickenbacker has 2-1/2 years remaining on his current four-year term.

The state Constitution gives South Carolina governors the power to suspend public officials accused of crimes that involve moral turpitude, and governors routinely exercise that authority accordingly.

With Rickenbacker's suspension from office, the council chairmanship moves to Harry Wimberly, the vice chairman, County Administrator Bill Clark said.

"That's the specific purpose of having a vice chairman designated," to take charge in the absence of the chairman, Clark said. "Wimberly will assume the duties (of chair) until the new council is seated in January."

As is council's practice, at the first meeting in every January, "one of the first orders of business will be (for the council) to vote for a chair and vice chair," Clark said.

Reaction is shock; impact on TRMC issue is uncertain

By WENDY JEFFCOAT, T&D Staff Writer

Orangeburg County and Regional Medical Center officials expressed shock at the news of Orangeburg County Council Chairman John Rickenbacker's federal indictment on charges of corruption handed down Wednesday in Columbia.

Many praised his years of work on council and as chairman.

According to the indictment, Rickenbacker, 54, received $50,000 between December 2005 and May 2006 from an undercover FBI agent posing as a consultant to a company interested in acquiring TRMC.

In exchange for the money, Rickenbacker allegedly told the agent he would provide a copy of a valuation study on the hospital's financial health, which would assist the company as it prepared to bid on TRMC, the indictment said.

Harry Wimberly, county council vice chairman, said he was caught off guard by Wednesday's events.

"I'm totally shocked. I don't know what else to say," he said. "Basically we are going through a process, and as far as we got in the process was getting the (hospital) evaluation back."

Wimberly, who has been an outspoken critic of the hospital, declined to make further comment for fear anything he said without fully comprehending the charges against his colleague would be "without thought."

He said he has never personally been approached by a company wishing to discuss the possible purchase of TRMC.

"This is pretty tough to digest right now," he said. "As vice chairman, my focus right now would certainly be to put the county in a positive light. I know this is going to be a big blow to the county."

Orangeburg County Administrator Bill Clark said he had not received any official correspondence on the indictment and had not heard of any formal statements made by Rickenbacker.

He said for the time being, the county has more questions than answers.

"I understand there's always two sides to every story," Clark said. "I know part of one and none of the other. I don't want to prejudge the situation until all the information comes in."

He praised Rickenbacker's work on council as far as his pushing for the County/City Industrial Park and the recent announcement of a gymnasium to benefit the entire county.

"I was very unprepared for this," Clark said. "In all the years I've known Councilman Rickenbacker, I would never have suspected anything such as this."

TRMC board Chairman Willie B. Owens agreed that news of Rickenbacker's indictment was a "total surprise."

"John has been an excellent council member ... and an excellent leader," he said. "Sometimes bad things happen to the best of us. I'm very sorry this has happened. I really feel for John and his family at this particular time."

As for the recent hospital study conducted by Chicago-based Ponder & Co., Owens, who during Tuesday's TRMC board meeting questioned the objectivity of the study, said trustees will accept it for what it's worth to TRMC.

"There are a lot of things we don't agree with, but there are a few we can probably benefit from," he said. "I think in view of who we are and where we are in South Carolina and the economy, we (TRMC) are doing well."

TRMC President Tom Dandridge said its not uncommon for companies to talk to local officials about the option of buying or leasing a hospital - legally.

"It's pretty common to buy or lease hospitals," he said. "John was a real force in this community, and when something like this happens, it's kind of hard to determine what this all means. Of course he is not guilty until proven. He cast a big shadow, though."

To his knowledge, Dandridge said the hospital was not involved in the FBI investigation leading to Rickenbacker's indictment.

The hospital study conducted by Ponder & Co. will be looked at by the hospital, he said, and the board will review and make comments concerning it appropriately. He said the company is a trustworthy source, as the hospital utilized the company several years ago for an assessment.

"Ponder - their name has not been associated with this story - so I guess I'm assuming that we still need to proceed with responding to the report until somebody tells me different or facts come out to indicate that it is indeed tainted," Dandridge said. "As it stands now, we're going to have to let this other story run its course, and we'll deal with this (the study) as presented."

Ponder & Co. Managing Director David Atchison declined to comment on the indictment and study.

Columbia-based consulting health care economist Lynn Bailey, who most recently worked in Orangeburg several years ago during discussions to develop an ambulatory surgery center, said this type of indictment isn't shocking.

"I'm not surprised because there's so much money tied up in health care," she said. "If you're TRMC, you've got to have mixed feelings. It's got to be incredibly unnerving to them that you've been working for the good of your community to find out the chair of your county council may have used that to solicit money for a bribe.

"But that's how much money is in health care. It's real money. I'm glad to hear that in the for-profit industry, faced with something like this, they did the right thing."

Calhoun County Council Chairman David Summers said he's saddened to see Rickenbacker's indictment and said in his eyes, he and Rickenbacker had a very good working relationship.

"I'm sorry to see this happen to him," he said. "We didn't always agree, (but) I think he's done a good job for Orangeburg County."

Summers said a representative of a company interested in purchasing the hospital approached him and Calhoun County attorney Lee Prickett but was told they were not interested. Calhoun County co-owns the hospital with Orangeburg.

In fact, he said more than a half dozen companies have expressed interest in purchasing TRMC.

"I'm still not interested in selling the hospital," Summers said. "I think it would be a bad deal for the citizens of Orangeburg and Calhoun counties."

Orangeburg County Councilman Clyde Livingston said he, too, knows of at least five or six companies that have expressed interest in purchasing the hospital, but "I always said it would be a council decision and anything that goes before council would have to go through the administrator."

He said he doesn't recall anything out of bounds coming up during those discussions and said if the sale or lease of the hospital were to be discussed, the indictment "would not take it off the table."

Additionally, Livingston said he's never discussed the sale of TRMC with Rickenbacker and believes the study by Ponder was a good idea.

"Information is never a bad thing," he said. "I've always been the one on council accused of wanting too much information."

Councilman Johnnie Wright, who had not seen news reports prior to being contacted by The Times and Democrat, said he was shocked at the allegations and his heart goes out to Rickenbacker and his family.

He said the hospital study supported by him and council was not to prepare TRMC for sale but to find out what improvements, if any, need to be made at the facility.

Under Rickenbacker's leadership, Wright also cited economic development accomplishments including establishment of two industrial parks.

"He (Rickenbacker) was a good leader," he said, "extremely intelligent, well-versed. I think he had Orangeburg County's interests at heart. You can't deny that despite his lapse in judgment."

Wright said he does not, however, condone the actions leading to Rickenbacker's charges.

"The county has certainly grown, and we have a good team," one he hopes can stay together despite the allegations its chairman faces. "I'm hopeful and pray that it will.

"The county has to move on."

How the case unfolded

T&D Staff Report

The trail of events that led to the indictment of Orangeburg County Council Chairman John Rickenbacker began with a meeting arranged to discuss the sale of The Regional Medical Center.

According to the federal indictment unveiled Wednesday charging Rickenbacker with extortion and bribery for accepting money to influence and facilitate sale of TRMC, an unidentified company that operates hospitals in rural and suburban areas around the country was considering attempting to acquire the hospital that is owned by Orangeburg and Calhoun counties. A "contract consultant" who "regularly traveled to Orangeburg ... met with various individuals to determine whether the company should attempt to acquire TRMC."

The consultant arranged a Nov. 3, 2005, meeting with Rickenbacker to discuss the company's interest in TRMC, the indictment states.

It was during that meeting that Rickenbacker "solicited the company consultant for cash payments" in exchange for John H. Rickenbacker's assistance and eventual support on the council for a sale and lease of TRMC by the company.

"In return for the cash, John H. Rickenbacker agreed to provide the company with a copy of a confidential evaluation report to be generated at the request of the council by a private consulting company analyzing the financial condition of TRMC," the indictment states.

The report, which was to take three to four months to complete, was authorized by council four days later on Nov. 7. Results were submitted to the Orangeburg and Calhoun councils, and the TRMC board, this month.

Rickenbacker allegedly told the consultant he wanted $5,000 a month until the study was complete, at which time he would provide a copy of the report exclusively to the company to give it advantage in the bidding process, the indictment states.

After the meeting, the company consultant introduced Rickenbacker by phone to an undercover FBI agent posing as another company consultant. The FBI agent and Rickenbacker then met six times from December 2005 to May 2006.

"During a contemplated 'phase two' of the relationship," Rickenbacker offered to assist the company in obtaining public support for sale or lease of TRMC and the votes on council needed to make it happen, the indictment states.

On May 17, Rickenbacker delivered the "confidential valuation report" to the FBI agent posing as the consultant ... In exchange for delivery of the valuation report and the promise of future support and favorable treatment for the company," he accepted $50,000 in cash payments, the indictment states.

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The following comments are reader submitted. They do not represent the views of The T&D or Lee Enterprises.

Face the truth wrote on Nov 9, 2006 11:56 PM:

" I am only 29 years old and I have lived in Orangeburg for many of those years. I can remember hearing stories my mother told me about the racism that, someone mentioned earlier, happened in the 60's(which is not long ago). We would all be ignorant to ignore the fact that racism does exist in this city, county, state, and country. There is racism of black vs. black in this town, white vs. white, black vs. white, white n black vs others. We are condemned to repeat the past if we don't acknowledge it. Politicans everywhere are corrupt. Some white and some not. However, it is true, Black Americans need to know that White Americans are goverened by a different set of rules(if we want to be truthful). That is the reason for the "Black" struggle, remember...that is why Martin Luther King died. So I challenge all of the young people (black or white)in this county to take a stand and make a difference in any way that you can. What we cannot argue that if he did the crime then he allowed himself to be subject to all the scrutiny. The court will decide if he is innocent and guilty. Not us. I am in school to to become an Accountant and certainly ethics will play apart in my career choices, so should everyone. So lets get more involved and become more committed to the struggle of Black people and All people. I pray that God has mercey on our "ailing" nation, for we are truly in need of prayer. "

Travis Middleton wrote on Sep 13, 2006 1:36 PM:

" I feel that all men are innocent until proven guilty.But Orangeburg has always been a place where people white or black with titles are placed on a higher level than others.They begin to feel that they are better than others as well.Orangeburg Schools Dist. 5 is a joke a school district concerned more about titles & salaries than educating there children.Orangeburg City has a white mayor when they are the majority 29.78 % white with 67.51% black. The county is full of senseless bureauacy B.S that will continue to go on because blacks have accepted it.You are the majority 60.86% Black 37.17% White.I have read the comments for the past 3 months and the majority of you feel that Mr.Rickenbacker is being picked on.What happened to former Sheriff Johnson or Paul Simmons & Stephon Edwards.Just a few people that have been placed on a pedestal.Deeming them the "Orangeburg Elite".Remember scripture says it only last for a season.If you hide your face your body will show. "

Judgement wrote on Sep 10, 2006 10:21 AM:

" Well, your innocent until proven guility. It doesn't matter how you were raised, nor how you raised your kids, nor the type of wife you have, b/c people can make mistakes. Mr. Rickenbackker is no exception. This has been going on for centuries some get caught, some don't. I truly believe that he got caught with his britches down. We have choices in this life and it is up to us as citizens in this world to do the right thing. God has a way of getting one's attention because sometimes we get so big headed we can't see the ground. You have to remember how to treat people. Sometimes people get degrees & jobs and take their authority for granted and often tends to abuse their position. What you do in the dark will come to the light......Then that's when you need to re-evaluate everything in your life. You all say you know Mr. Rickenbakker and he is a good man but everyone may not agree with you on that. But ask your self this one question....do you really know him?....evidentally not....B/c you didn't know he was stealing money. People put on fascades everyday and you never know who they really are until the grits hit the fan, and then everything comes out about them "THE REAL TRUTH"......This goes on all over the world some of the most respected people get themselves in situations of murder, fraud, and embezzlement, and no one never knew b/c they showed a different person to the world. Ask this question if thwy did an investigation, and have this man on video....then what are you gonna say then oh I know he wouldn't do this & the tape was altered...Not. Wake up people, and let's keep out the race card, how they raised their family, his wife, etc out of this....He made a bad choice and got caught with his hand in the cookie jar..... By the way I am african american. God knows what he is doing........ "

Orangeburg Resident wrote on Aug 24, 2006 8:57 PM:

" Let's keep him in our prayers and not judge. "

Family Friend wrote on Aug 19, 2006 5:40 AM:

" Mr. Rickenbacker's sister and I were high school classmates. He comes from a family which I highly respect. I find it hard to believe that he his guilty of these charges. He was not brought up that way. "

Jackie wrote on Aug 19, 2006 5:28 AM:

" Are there any new developments that the Orangeburg community should be aware of? At this point, I am reluctant to pass judgement one way or another about Mr. Rickenbacker's involvement in this alleged crime. "

True Friends wrote on Aug 17, 2006 3:44 PM:

" Why must people continue to talk negative talk about Mr. Rick. They are still not satisfied because they thought that the black community would just leave him out in the cold. Well guess what, we're still behind him 100%. He has done sooooooooo many things for Orangeburg county and don't forget about the the new recreational facility that will be completed to benefit our children. You can't keep a good man down. Many white men fear educated black men because they have knowledge and power. The hospital is not clean it's nasty. Too all of the people with the negative comments, keep them to yourself because I know that we all have skeletons in our closets but GOD knows our heart and he sees everything that we're doing. The only time that we should look down on a man, is when we're picking him up, no matter of his color. Many white men want to be in Mr. Rick place. Harry Wimberly, who is he anyway and guess what he will never do for Orangeburg County what Mr. Rickenbacker has done, he just another under cover red neck that love african american women, our men are the best and so are our women. Can we please find something else to talk about, this is old news, Mr. Rick you're some special guy, you're getting more attention than Clinton and Bush!!! Hold your head up, we love you. "

someone disappointed wrote on Aug 16, 2006 6:27 PM:

" Im only of the age of 16 and i have more common sense than most of the people commenting on this issue. This is not a racial issue, this is a man being accused of a crime ... it happens to many ... whether your black, white, hispanic, asian, etc. Who cares if jails have more black or whites, every single individual is in there for their own faults. My boyfriend and father have both been in jail and they are white. Does that mean the judge showed racism against them ... NO. It means they commited a crime and were being punished. Get over the racist issue. and show some support for his family and friends. "

roosevelt wrote on Aug 16, 2006 1:51 PM:

" For those of you who keep saying the data is incorrect that is being posted here, please provide data to show that is the case. Otherwise your comments are just useless attacks. "

Former O'burger wrote on Aug 16, 2006 8:27 AM:

" I dont know if Confisus Sum has his data correct or not, but I can say his statement about more blacks being racist in that area is correct. I made many friends of all colors that I met at my job in O'burg. However dealing with the black ppl out in the community was a different story. I remember one incident at the local K-mart I while I was waiting in a long line at the service desk...I was basically ignored and skipped over for the longest time while I watched at least 5 or 6 black citizens return items with no reciept or questions asked. When I politely made myself of notice I was impolitely told that i couldnt exchange my item even with a reciept. It reminded me of that old Chris Rock joke about being able to exchange a dirty diaper at Wal-mart. With my twisted sense of humor I thought,"Yep, you could prolly do that at K-mart in O'burg if you're black." That was just one occasion that I remember but there were lots of other times that I remembered feeling like a lesser citizen being a white girl in The 'Burg. "

Ava wrote on Aug 16, 2006 7:55 AM:

" confisus Sum, you Speak intelligently on subjects you know NOTHING about. I agree with the others your data is not correct. "

wondering wrote on Aug 16, 2006 12:55 AM:

" Does anyone know why the delay in carrying this case to court? Maybe after the election the defense can use a statement like "see the public trusts him they re-elected him". Not the only way he wins again is by default since no one is running against him. Just food for thought. I wonder if anyone else was indicted for a similar case could they delay for this amount of time. Just Wondering "

my two cents wrote on Aug 15, 2006 9:39 AM:

" I'm not sure why the attacks on confisus sum. His posts are actually repeating the same message presented by others here...both by black and white citizens. To reiterate, Mr. Rickenbacker may be the nicest man you'll ever meet (what politician isn't?), but if he has abused his political power then he should have to pay the price...regardless of his race. He will have his day in court as an American and the facts will determine whether the indictment was warranted or not. Screaming racism this early in the game illustrates the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"..only in Orangeburg's story it will be "The People Who Cried Racism." "

confisus sum wrote on Aug 14, 2006 11:33 AM:

" While I must admit I am disappointed in the responses to my posts, I am not surprised. They only validate the points that I had hoped to make. For those that disputed my facts, please feel free to provide data that supports their inaccuracy. I would not arbitrarily create data to advance my opinions. I leave that to those that do such a good job of spinning the truth. To make claims that I or anyone else with similiar positions would promote ingnorance is, well....ignorant. Why would the accusation be made that, by intelligently advancing my opinion, that I am divisive, or insensitive. Does that not apply to the individuals that take pride in bashing my submissions, while never providing a basis for doing so? While I will never abridge your right to disagree, please do not assume that I don't feel compelled to respond when comments or situations warrant. "

Confisus supporter wrote on Aug 14, 2006 8:32 AM:

" To imply that a poster here is bitter and angry because he supports a truthful view of the situation is hypocritical and indicates a double standard. There are probably 50 posts on here that qualify for that distinction. But because they promote a pro-black position they are not mentioned. "

MANUEL wrote on Aug 13, 2006 11:02 PM:

" I am amazed at the amount of hatred, ignorance,and bigotry displayed here. "

Betty wrote on Aug 13, 2006 10:59 PM:

" Confisus Sum its people like you who keep Americans from healing. You spread an ignorance and insensitivity. You keep it well disguise, by attempting to speak intelligently on subjects you know absolutely Nothing about. Your Data is still very incorrect! "

stand up wrote on Aug 11, 2006 11:43 AM:

" these comments are what causes people to be scared to speak out. everybody in america has a right to their opinion. if you dont agree with them that is your right. but because you dont, doesnt give you the right to criticize them for theirs. keep burying your head in the sand and eventually that wont be the only thing covered. "

martin wrote on Aug 11, 2006 10:20 AM:

" You people need to wake up. This confisus sum person is the first person to speak the truth and you liberal minded people cant stand it. Where do you get off being critical of this person, when you are the ones being hateful. The information that he (or she) quotes is accurate. You just need to take off your black colored glasses and see it for yourself. "

Hill H. wrote on Aug 10, 2006 11:39 PM:

" This Confisus Sum person is very angry and bitter. "

Gladys wrote on Aug 10, 2006 8:08 PM:

" Why are we giving this person Confisus sum any credit. He or she has proven to be someone we should ignore. Confisus Sum's data is incorrect, and he/she is insensitive. Just ignore him. He/she will eventually disapear. Its people like him that keeps the Human race from healing and progressing. Just Ignore confisus Sum. "

confisus sum wrote on Aug 10, 2006 2:11 PM:

" While sincerely doubting your true ethnicity Uncle Thom, you have once again proven that the ignorance is not with those that promote the truth, but rather those that fail to accept it. While the issue of racism is manifested so prominently here in this area, it is shared equally on both sides. What my comments promote is the removal of racism as an excuse for the ills that befall the black community. The facts that I have illustrated are readily available to anyone with the desire to look for them. I submit to you, that facts are not what you seek. The failure of the racism excuse, will cause the black community to have to evaluate the inherent causes of their present situation. I contend that the change should start with you, sir. Until the excuses are no longer the norm, and responsibility for mistakes are accepted, then this discussion will never be exhausted, and you will continue to be frustrated by the truth. "

Thom wrote on Aug 10, 2006 10:07 AM:

" UNTIL WE AS WHITE AMERICANS ARE ABLE TO ADMIT THAT RACISM AND IGNORANCE IS ALIVE AND WELL IN AMERICA, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS CONFISUS SUM PERSON DISPUTING, JUSTIFYING, IGNORING, WHATS APPARENT IN THIS WORLD. RACISM IS REAL.... CONFISUS SUM DEAL WITH IT..... THE CHANGE STARTS WITH YOU. "

Jill wrote on Aug 10, 2006 9:59 AM:

" Reply to....Confisus sum your data is still incorrect. "

RD wrote on Aug 9, 2006 11:46 PM:

" It has been along waiting for this to happen. When will the other shoe drops on the other council members as well for the other crimes Johnnie has done? "

confisus sum wrote on Aug 8, 2006 2:10 PM:

" Actually the last poster is correct. Orangeburg county is only 65% black. America's prisons may be full of blacks, but 43.8% of all incarcerated men were white. Higher than the percentage of blacks or hispanics. But if data is collected as to the locations, it is evident that large metropolitan areas incarcerate at a much higher percentage in regards to blacks. Being that most metro areas have black leadership, I think the incarceration question should be posed to them. Don't you? As a matter of fact, a black man in Washington, D.C. is over 55 times more likely to be incarcerated than a white man. When all the municipal leadership is black, then should we not use the logic posed earlier and assume they are racist to black men? "

TO "are you kidding" wrote on Aug 7, 2006 6:37 PM:

" 70% of this community is not black as a matter of fact America is mostly White. So I still pose the question of WHY ARE MOST OF OUR PRISONS FILLED WITH BLACK MEN? "

Delia wrote on Aug 7, 2006 6:30 PM:

" I agree Nigel, whats with this racism in Orangeburg? Black Americans on one side White Americans on the other. I thought we killed Racism in the 60's. "

Deron Dantzler wrote on Aug 4, 2006 10:40 AM:

" Nigel: There is strength in diversity. "

Nigel wrote on Aug 4, 2006 12:52 AM:

" Orangeburg, is a very divided town, with african americans on one side and white americans on the other. This situation with Mr. Rickenbaker proves that MUCH needs to be done in Orangeburg to heal this sickness of Racism. "

ronald wrote on Aug 2, 2006 5:40 AM:

" Enough Already! I have had it. I had no clue that Orangeburg was so divided. "

Darlene J. wrote on Aug 1, 2006 6:42 PM:

" It amazes me that Orangeburg is so divided. Why can't we all get along? "

Belinda C. wrote on Aug 1, 2006 7:26 AM:

" Mr. Rickenbaker should be considered innocent until proven guilty. Plain and simple. "

hopeful wrote on Jul 30, 2006 10:29 PM:

" i hope that if i ever get caught breaking the law that you people will be hollering racism to get me off too. if you sit back and read some of this garbage maybe you will realize what kind of fools you are making yourselves look like. "

james wrote on Jul 29, 2006 12:20 PM:

" racism has nothing to do with being corrupt. black,white,green or yellow, if a public official takes a bribe it is wrong. this allegation involves not one incident, but several- hard to argue someone was set up on multiple occasions. there is a presumption of innocence- we shall see "

are you kidding wrote on Jul 27, 2006 2:53 PM:

" I think the comments of the discussion prove racism exists. Specifically in the black perspective. Blacks use racism EVERY time one of their so-called leaders are found guilty. NO ONE cried racism when the white legislators in the state capital were investigated and convicted of the same thing. Does this not constitute a double standard? Blacks made this an issue of race, as usual. It is their only defense against their mis-deeds. White Americans would talk about the issue, if it were used as a learning tool, instead of an excuse. If the community is 70% black, then 70% of the criminals will be black. Because this is uneven towards blacks, is basic math principles racist? He WAS NOT targeted for being black, but for being corrupt. Deal with it. "

Katie wrote on Jul 25, 2006 6:27 PM:

" When will this madness end????? "

Brad W. wrote on Jul 24, 2006 2:59 AM:

" If Mr. Rickenbaker commited the crime he needs to be punished, I also understand why some Black Americans feel so strongly about this issue of "if he were A White American, would he get the same treatment"??? Statistically, in this American White ruled and Governed Society, black men are acused far greater than white men of crimes. Its no big suprise that our prisons are filled with Black Men. Its no suprise that our schools are failing in the black community, Its no suprise that there is such a thing called WHIITE PRIVLEDGE in this world, we live in. We as White Americans don't want to talk about the controversal subject of racism. The only way to heal this dreadful disease of racism is to openly discuss it. Racism, worldwide, does exist and it is just plain ignorant to deny it. "

Jesse wrote on Jul 21, 2006 7:15 PM:

" You just don't get it. Its not the fact that he commited the crime.... if he did it then he should be punished....the issue and fact is that Black Americans are so very aware of the double standards placed on us. We know that crimes committed by White Americans are not viewed as harshly as crimes committed by any PERSON OF COLOR (black, hispanic, asian). It isn't just a coincidence that so many of our prisons are FILLED with BLACK MALES. What is that about? What does that say? All Black Men are criminals? Until ALL Americans are able to deal with these Double Standards we will always have issues of racism. I challenge all to really look at this issue. "

ATL Observer wrote on Jul 21, 2006 2:08 PM:

" Black politians are always held to a higher standard. We have less numbers in government, yet we have the highest percentage of these type of convictions or allegations. This fact is indicative of the unequal treatment of Law Enforcement stings, relative to the two groups of politians. The records/data speaks for themselves and black folks are no more corrupt than the white folks. One wouldn't know it based on the data. "

confisus sum wrote on Jul 21, 2006 10:41 AM:

" White americans understand racism if they live in this county. Blacks that relocate here even comment on how racist the black community is here. Yet, they don't use it as crutch for every dumb decision made by people of similiar ethnicity. Maybe they are more prone to take responsibility, rather than play out a tired old strategy of blaming their ills on everyone else. "

lin wrote on Jul 20, 2006 6:58 AM:

" Its interesting... that white Americans DO not understand racism in this country. They just don't get it. "

Brown wrote on Jul 18, 2006 7:32 AM:

" It is time to end these comments for we all have our trials to go through. Let us pray for those that are going through and leave the matter to God first and the courts. We need to stop clouding the matter and it will unfold the way the Lord plan for it to unfold. "

DCS wrote on Jul 18, 2006 1:05 AM:

" As a former OC resident who has moved on, I'm surprised to see all the claims of racism on this issue. If the charges are true, shame on Mr. Rickenbacker as there is no excuse. As an educator, he should be ashamed that this will be his legacy. He had an opportunity to do good but has allegedly chosen to enrich himself rather than look after the interests of Orangeburg County. Congratulations to the Bureau for investigating this and bringing the issue to light. Regardless of his race, sex, age, or whatever other protected status anyone may claim, this is morally wrong and if guilty should be punished. Indeed, he is innocent until proven guilty but as a public servant, he should be held to a higher standard. He�s free on bond, not behind bars, and being afforded due process to present his defense. Regardless of his race, this is wrong. Anyone found guilty of this by the federal officials should be subject to the same punishment since it�s na�ve to think he was forced to take money for insider information. Get over the racist issues and move one. Orangeburg has let this be divisive for too long. "

Citizen wrote on Jul 17, 2006 9:11 AM:

" Ignorant racists are ruining this city/county. Anyone (such as Jen & Rachel) that honestly believes that Rickenbacker was arrested only because he is black needs to wake up. If you look beyond your racist eyes, you will see that people of all colors commit crimes and should be punished for them. Maybe you all did not read the article, but the FBI arrested this man. Not anyone in Orangeburg. "

?? wrote on Jul 16, 2006 12:31 PM:

" Rachel and everyone else talking about this is racial. What is wrong with you?? Color has nothing to do with what he has done. Sounds to me like you have the racial problem. Get a life!! "

shirley wrote on Jul 15, 2006 11:47 PM:

" my payers are with you and your family. May god continue to strength you through this ordeal. "

Rachel wrote on Jul 12, 2006 10:26 PM:

" Mr. Rickenbaker, Be proud, strong, wise, confident. Don't let them break you. They fear African American men in power. I am not suprise that they went digging up stuff. How many white politicians have skeletons in their closets? Someone should investigate these white politians. "

Thurston Murray wrote on Jul 12, 2006 2:32 PM:

" I have worked with Mr.Rickenbacker for many years in Economic Development matters concerning training our citizens for jobs that Economic Development Teams have brought to Orangeburg. My prayers go out to him and his fine family at this time. You know I am proud to be an American and so is Mr.Rickenbacker. I served my country in the Armed Forces to protect our freedom. A person is innocent until proven quilty. Let's not rush to judgement before the charges are read and the trial ends. Have you ever thought there may have been a reason for the allegations of misconduct by Mr.Rickenbacker. As a community player in Economic Development all I ask is that Mr.Rickenbacker be given a fair trial and I am sure he will be. "

confisus sum wrote on Jul 12, 2006 2:13 PM:

" Nationally, blacks are imprisoned on average 9.1 times as often as whites. If this high rate of black imprisonment was caused by anti-black conservatism, then the ratio of blacks to whites imprisoned should be highest in Republican strongholds like the Old South. But instead, it is lowest there of any major region. Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina are only about six times more likely to imprison blacks than whites�just two-thirds of the national average. In contrast, by far the greatest racial disparity was found in the most liberal spot on the map: the black-run District of Columbia, where Bush won only nine percent of the vote. Blacks in Washington D.C. are 56 times more likely than whites to wind up in the slammer. "

Observer from Atlanta wrote on Jul 12, 2006 9:55 AM:

" Sooner but probably later the silent MAJORITY of GREATER Orangeburg are going to wake up and assert their voting power. All of the responses to Mr. Rick's indictment appears to have awakened a sleeping giant. Those politicians who have been taking under the table money will be made known to the public very soon. We will witness a dramatic shift in the balance of power in Orangeburg and those who have sat in their IVORY towers will come crashing down. Let's hope that those who are elected use this latest incident as a lesson in local politics that will motivate public officials to understand that the game (politics) is not played the same way for African-Americans and whites in Orangeburg. LEARN,GROW, and TAKE CHARGE. "

RE: Jen Student wrote on Jul 10, 2006 10:53 AM:

" Oh okay, so Bill Clinton should be in jail for life for lying about his personal life since it really hurt the country so bad and caused everyone so much grief. "

former co-worker wrote on Jul 9, 2006 10:55 PM:

" I worked with Rick for many years when he served as an assistant principal at W. J. Clark Middle School. He was a superb administrator and a wonderful role model for the many students who passed down the corridors of Clark Middle School.Day in and day out he made decisions that impacted the young people of Orangeburg and though as a classroom teacher I may not have always agreed with his disciplinary decisions, I know in my heart that he always did what was in the best interest for all of the students at Clark Middle School. He and his wife Hazel raised two fine young men, both of whom I had the honor of teaching. My prayers are with Rick and his family and I hope District 5 has the good judgement to keep him as an employee. "

Anonymous wrote on Jul 8, 2006 11:24 PM:

" How long is the T&D going to keep this discussion going. Any other topic would only last 3 days. "

Jen student wrote on Jul 8, 2006 4:33 PM:

" The white politicians can get out of trouble without serving any time. Don't think they are not taking bribes. Remember Pappa Johnson, Paul Simmons and Stephon Edwards were all jailed for doing things that surely the white folks are doing. Look at president Clinton still recieving money for the scandal he had. He's being paid to tell his story. Should be in jail for life. "

viewer wrote on Jul 8, 2006 3:06 AM:

" Anyone that believes racism isnt alive and well in orangeburg , then they are a fool .. I dont know if it played a part in this but im quite sure he has some co workers or council members that are sitting back gloating --but beware God isnt asleep and he isnt dead... may god bless the family of the accused. "

ra wrote on Jul 6, 2006 10:41 PM:

" Let the chips fall. TRMC has driven off has driven off many patients and doctors with the politics. It's time that they pay more attention to the care of their patients and physicians and employees. Orangeburg has one of the finest hospitals in the state and staffed by some of the best nurses and physicians in the state. Time to quit bickering, keep the politics and the politicians in city hall and at the county building and out of the hospital. If Mr Rickenbaker took the money, then shame on him, black or white. It is never ok to take money (other than salary) for public service from anyone for any reason. That's called bribery. "

Spell Checker wrote on Jul 6, 2006 3:00 PM:

" Duhhh Howard Middle School, not only are the students underachievers, but the staff members too(Deloris Hannah, Brandenburg, McCants, the list goes on endlessly) don't even know how to spell. The correct for satin (things that clothes are made from or sheets on a bed) is satan (an evil angel that was put out of Heaven). "

Ted wrote on Jul 5, 2006 11:42 PM:

" WE SUPPORT MR RICKENBAKER! "

Concerned Citizen #2 wrote on Jul 5, 2006 11:41 PM:

" Mr. Rickenbaker Has not done what countless other doctors and hospital administrators have done. When Phamaceutical Companies want buisness they offer big incentives such as trips to Hawaii, California, Europe. Its amazing the types of ""Legal Bribes"" that are taken everyday by Doctors and Hospital Administrators.It just goes to show that black men should do as they are told, but not do what the white boys are doing. Whats wrong with this picture? We live in a society that does not respect Minorities in leadership position. "

wake up people wrote on Jul 5, 2006 12:41 AM:

" As a african american female. I have this question. Why is it when out so-called black leaders get caught with their hands in the cookie jar,always claim Racism. One prominant leader was caught with money in his freezer,I am not talking abot 4 or 500.00. Denmark,Orangeburg,Hampton,etc you name it,racism is always the first and last defense. And we wonder why crime among our youths (all races) is growing at an alarming rate. Look at the so-called mentors who are setting what I say is a bad example. Like all politicians,African Americans politicians, its all about GREED "

Hou-Yin Chang wrote on Jul 3, 2006 8:38 PM:

" This is the price we pay for a one-party, ultra-liberal government which raises regressive taxes at will (60% on prepared food in the past ten years, 20% on everything else), have control from the AFL-CIO (where the county Democratic Party was led by the leader of the state AFL-CIO), and have legislators paid off. This might as well mean the kiss of death for the planned casino near Santee, across the street from a Southern Baptist Convention church. Let's see what ultra-leftists mean -- corrupt leaders, corrupt ideas, and nothing right which means no development, and even the county's best companies depart (SCBT Financial). "

sara wrote on Jul 3, 2006 5:09 PM:

" Open your minds. Stop making excuses, and use both sides of the equation to teach your children right from wrong. You can never go forward if you are continually looking back. "

Margaret Logan wrote on Jul 3, 2006 9:35 AM:

" It is amazing to me how many people stand up in church on Sunday and then forget all about it until they are caught doing a dirty deed. It is enough to turn you away from church and these type of people. I hope this gentleman stands up and if all shows he did wrong, accept it like a man. The person that stated I know his son and family, well, how does he look to his son now? His father on the news involved in wrong doing. The best thing he can do is stand up and be a MAN his children can look up to. If all these comments continue about racism-how will this couny much less this country survive? This gentleman also should send a letter to every employee of the Regional Medical Center and say I am sorry for all the negative comments made. TRMC is not perfect, but it has a lot of fine people that treat the people that come though the door, Black or White. "

Allan wrote on Jul 2, 2006 8:55 PM:

" So many of our black leaders are being targeted. I know that there are some white politicans commiting crimes, but they are usually given a pat on the back. "

bwm wrote on Jul 2, 2006 4:20 PM:

" The courts will decide Mr. Rickenbacker's fate. Whether he was a pillar of the community or a Black pillar of the community should have nothing to do with his innocence or guilt. Let the chips fall where they may and let justice be done. "

JS wrote on Jul 2, 2006 2:05 AM:

" Thank you Mr. Wimberly, you are right on time. The Bible tell us gossip is a sin. We are sometime too quick to convict before the fact are known. May God Bless You!!! "

BA wrote on Jul 2, 2006 12:55 AM:

" Its been said that what goes on in the dark will come to the light and I guess it was just his time for the light to come on. It really doesn't matter what people think really happen, becuse God knows the truth, and if I was him I wouldn't use Johnson as my lawyer remember he was Pappa's lawyer. "

antithesis of spin wrote on Jul 2, 2006 12:08 AM:

" The comments of this "blog" are a total embarrasment to the decent level-headed citizens of this community. Since 1968 we have cast reason and common sense aside to bow to the pressure of political correctness. The interjection of race, as a means to quantify corruptness, is disengenous to the people it is meant to assist. The judicial process has been a cornerstone of our system of government for 230 years. While flawed, it is far superior to any other system in the world. When will the generations stop reproducing the hatred of racism into its children? The blind melodramtics demonstrated by supporters of Mr. Rickenbacker are understandable, they want to see him exonerated. It is their tactics that we all must take issue with. No longer should we be silent while justice is manipulated by the self serving interests of individuals who hypocritically call on religion, and racism, while all the while scared that their own system of "good-old boy" politics is preserved. It is ignorant to think that charges are created to target blacks as a means to upset the balance of power. A quick examination of Mr. Rickenbacker's district should alleviate any fear of anyone other than a black person getting elected. We are continuing to prove to the world that we are the most backward community in America. All potential industry, business, and relocating homeowners are crossing Orangeburg off of their prospect lists. With the staggering loss of tax base, the complete ineptitude of local government, and the disaster know as Orangeburg School District 5, it is only a matter of time before Williamsburg and Allendale counties are thanking their lucky stars that they are no longer the worst counties in the state. Never to have to worry about falling below Orangeburg. "

student wrote on Jul 1, 2006 2:14 PM:

" My prayers are with you and your family stay encourage and keep God first and you will make it. "

former student wrote on Jul 1, 2006 2:12 PM:

" Whats the different between John Rickenbacker and Sharon Fanning. Why is the public making this a big issue. When she got charge for the same thing. Because God said no man is perfect and we all fall down and we do get back up with the help of God. Mr. Rick stay encourage and be bless cause God knows best. "

Hopeful... wrote on Jul 1, 2006 11:26 AM:

" Give me a break, PLEASE! Isn't it funny how a community boasts about moving forward, wanting to let go of its racial past, and as soon as a beloved black man is accused of wrongdoing the old crutch is brought right back out?! C'mon people. Is it so hard to believe that our beloved Mr. Rick could have actually made a mistake? Do you really think the FBI had nothing better to do than say, "Hey, let's go down there to ol' Orangeburg County and see if we can sting a black man!"? Look in to your past. Think about the mistakes you've meade. Now, do you think Mr. Rick is any less human? Church or no church, family or no family, we are still ALL sinful by nature. I'm not trying to convict him here, that's for the court to decide. But when you reflected back on the mistakes YOU made, did you say that you were caught because of your RACE? No, you were caught because you did something wrong! And frankly I think Mr. Rick himself would be embarrassed by some of your comments. Furthermore, the newspaper runs 364 of 365 days a year. In all those issues I can't count how many people have been exposed on the front cover. Where was your racial crutch for some of those black people? Where was all the support for them? I think what's really happening here is a community t has been let down by thier hero and it's just too tough of a pill to swallow so the excuse must be racism! And as for the people who think the T&D is two-faced about reporting on such a matter-NEWS FLASH! That's what the NEWSpaper does. They report the news. And judging by all the comments here, it was pretty big news and the T&D has done thier job quite well. Bottom line...let's let due process take its course. Guilty or innocent, I hope all this support will remain in tact. I have fond memories of Mr. Rickenbacker as an administrator at W.J. Clark. He was always kind and he let me slide quite a few times when I was written up at school. Does that make him perfect? Hey, if you're truly concerned then get all the facts and see all the evidence. Don't just turn a blind eye and see only what you WANT to see. I doubt Mr. Rick is the only one in hot water here and as the case unfolds I wonder if your support for everyone involved will be as strong! As for the citizens of Orangeburg, perhaps we could look back at our Community of Character characteristics. Let us not be hypocrites under these circumstances. Let our All-American City stand in unity and support even under pressure. The award shouldn't go to a town which collapses due to a bit of stormy weather. Stand with dignity and perhaps, after it's all said and done, forgiveness. "

Retired TRMC 4w nurse wrote on Jul 1, 2006 9:31 AM:

" What goes around comes around. Never have I seen a more arrogant, puffed up man in my life. If the people of Orangeburg could see how he loved to "push his weight around" they would not be shocked. Could not have happened to a better fellow. "

Embarrassed wrote on Jun 30, 2006 6:44 PM:

" Let's see...A council chairman, a coroner, a sheriff, and another councilman who is suspected of wrongdoing. Not to mention the astoundingly racist and ignorant comments that have been posted here so far. Obviously, Orangeburg's "Community of Character" is a typo. "Community of Characters" is the appropriate description. "

Nannie Brown wrote on Jun 30, 2006 5:21 PM:

" Hang in there Rick..Win lose or draw, You'got friends to the very end. "

FOR ALL PEOPLE wrote on Jun 30, 2006 2:54 PM:

" THIS IS NOT A RACIAL MATTER, YOU DO THE CRIME YOU DO THE TIME "

Eyes Wide Open wrote on Jun 30, 2006 12:10 PM:

" Why is there so much talk about John Rickenbacker being set up? Had he had the moral fiber to turn away, there would have been nothing to set up. Furthermore, why is this discussion board turning to a bashing of everyone but the person who stands accused? Face the facts, should they turn out to be such, that your coucilman did not act with the best interest of the county at heart. He can be forgiven for allowing his focus to be clouded by money, as we probaly have all been at one time or other in our lives. However, forgiving him for such a blunder does not mean ignoring it. There are consequences for every action, whether good or bad. As adults, we must remember that we are to be held accountable for our actions and must be willing to accept whatever punishments come our way. How else will we grow personally, spiritually and morally? "

A co-worker wrote on Jun 30, 2006 11:24 AM:

" John, we are behind you and your family with all our prayers. We know that God will stand in front. Keep your head up and remember "A family that prays together will stay together. And we are all your family "

TAS wrote on Jun 30, 2006 10:30 AM:

" Reading the allegations, I have absolutely no problems with this running the legal course. My heart and prayers goes out to the family of Mr. Rickenbacker. The only regret I have is that the investigation should not have stopped with Mr. Rickenbacker. There are very strong rumors around that at least one other Orangeburg councilman has committed criminal acts and other inappropriate acts that are not becoming of such a position holder. Should these and any other allegations prove true, "HAT OFF TO LAW ENFORCEMENT" for a job well done and keep it going. "

Supporter wrote on Jun 30, 2006 10:04 AM:

" Why can the T and D print so many wonderful things about Mr. Rick and then come around and just throw this out there and try to make him look like a full grown criminal... I am praying for him, his family, his church family, and friends and most importantly for those of you with hate in your hearts on the matter...May God Stand With You "

Marsha wrote on Jun 30, 2006 7:56 AM:

" I RECOGNIZE THAT IF MR. RICKENBAKER HAS COMMITED THIS CRIME THEN HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED, AND NO MATTER WHAT THE RACE, CREED, OR OREINTATION HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED..... I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THIS AMERICAN SOCIETY AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE SOMETIMES QUESTIONED ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP. EVEN COLIN POWELL, AND CONDALEZA RICE HAVE ALL BEEN QUESTIONED AND DOUBTED ON THIER ABILITY TO LEAD THIS COUNTY AS AFRICAN AMERICANS. AFRICAN AMERICANS IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS ARE "EXAMINED WITH A MICROSCOPE". WE AS AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE KEENLY AWARE OF THAT. "

Former Orangeburg Resident wrote on Jun 30, 2006 6:42 AM:

" I made Orangeburg my home 25 years ago, and lived there for 15 years. It saddens me that everything in Orangeburg revolves around race. As someone who knows and respects people of both races (including Mr. Rickenbacker and his wife), I know that until the races begin to work together, promote people of both races who have good moral character and hold people of their own race responsible for their actions, things will remain the same. Yes, God is love, but he is "just" as well and people must be held accountable for their actions no matter what color. Just because someone is held accountable does not mean that there is a conspiracy. Grow up Orangeburg!!! "

Supporter wrote on Jun 30, 2006 1:10 AM:

" Our prayers go out to you and your entire family. We love you John Harold. "

Concerned Supporter wrote on Jun 30, 2006 1:08 AM:

" May the work that Mr. Rickenbacker has done, speak for him. And oh! what an excellent job that he has done for Orangeburg county. Our prayers are with you and your family. Stay strong, keep the Faith, and the LORD will see you through. We all have to go through the refiner's fire to come out pure as gold. There is too much negativity in this city, county, state, and in this world. my mother always told my siblings and I that if you cannot say something nice, do not say anything at all. "

Rappin' Rapala wrote on Jun 29, 2006 10:39 PM:

" First I would like to send out my sincerest concerns for the inhabitants of "The All-America City." Keep up the good work despite discouraging comments about race and "ill intention". Does it really matter if you are a member of the same church, school, gym, country club, 4-H club, glee club, band, competition eating team, polo team, or rock collecting team church, school,j band camp "

JP wrote on Jun 29, 2006 7:15 PM:

" OK - It makes me sad to think that our county has this type of leaders. And think of all the negative press that has been generated again TRMC. How do we make it up to the hospital and all their employees? Remember Orangeburg and Calhoun County do not give any money to the hospital - Not one red cent!! Let's be thankful that we have TRMC in our community! I have NO sympathy for Mr. Rickenbacker! "

concern citizen tb wrote on Jun 29, 2006 7:09 PM:

" It's a shame how someone that holds important seats can make so many stupid mistakes. I've been around Mr. Rickenbacker before and he looks down on black people that are poor or that might have the education he have but I'm willing to promise you that those people wouldn't have done what he is accused of. "

Guess What! wrote on Jun 29, 2006 7:07 PM:

" One, two, Three "

Sad to see wrote on Jun 29, 2006 7:04 PM:

" This has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with an individual allegedly doing a stupid deed. I hear all the remarks about God and the Church but these were not the things in his mind when he took the 50 grand, if that has indeed happened, and I dont feel the State and Fed Govt would be too far off the mark "

PJF wrote on Jun 29, 2006 7:01 PM:

" Yes, we should keep him in our prayers, but we should not be so naive to the fact that people do break the law. Politics is a dirty game...and Rickenbacker got in over his head. He should be ashamed. Soon, Mr. Rickenbacker will ask for some help from the prosecution. He will want to sell out the rest of the wrong doing in Orangeburg County politics. You cannot blame him for not wanting to be in Federal prison for a long time. Like I said before, WHO IS NEXT? "

Citizen of Orangeburg wrote on Jun 29, 2006 5:48 PM:

" I am appalled at some of the comments. Every time you bring up that he was "set up" because he is black, keeps dividing blacks and whites in our community. If you could ever get past that, then this city could move forward. Your thought process with regards to race, every time something happens, keeps further dividing our community. This man alledgedly asked for the money and took the money. I don't care what color he is. The congressman who went to jail in California for taking money from the FBI was white, so quit saying he was targeted because of his race. The FBI received a tip that he was taking bribes, and investigated. Not because of his race, but because it is wrong. Citizens of Orangeburg need to start having higher standards for their public officials and stop thinking about color every time. Then we can have a really nice community. Meanwhile, if found guilty Rickenbacker needs to do the time, for committing a crime. "

Survey wrote on Jun 29, 2006 5:16 PM:

" To DE: You included in your comments, the following statement: "There is a task force set up in our state to try and ferrett out those who would unjustly take personal advantage while at the same time being given the public trust." You are so correct; "Set Up". I am curious as to how the task force identifies whom is to be 'set-up'. Does the task force get paid? Is the task force made up of a committee of sled, the FBI and other state constituents? How does the task force decide which public officials to 'set-up'? Who gave the 'fodder' to the task force. What member on the task force,in other words, initiated the conversation, or led the force to begin the set up with Mr. Rickenbacker. What other public official is the task force beginning to set up for now? What public official has the task force covered for? Who is the director of the task force. What citizen solicited or even bribed the director of the task force to begin the set-up with Mr. Rickenbacker? Moral#1: Never upset a person who earns a living raising chickens. Moral #2: When your county hospital can no longer suffice, then lead the constituents to merge with the hospitals that your county citizens prefer. "

Mack wrote on Jun 29, 2006 5:14 PM:

" In response to D.E.(By the way you spelled a word wrong in your comment. Too late now.) Understand that your paternalistic tone is egregious and antiquated. To all residents of Greater Orangeburg; do not forget the politics of that town are historical with 1968 still fresh in the memories of those born in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. African Political power in Orangeburg is extremely limited by the continued gerrymandering of the city limits. Deals have been cut for a long time since '68 to keep all but the "house" workers in check. The question is how long are the "field" workers going to remain ignorant in the INFORMATION AGE? The African American community is hurting again because the system has presented itself to be thorough when it comes to prosecution, investigation,and indictment. What has not occurred to many times in the past is JUSTICE. It is well known and remembered. So now we witness the political lynching of John in the public (media). How tragic that after all this time there still remains such disorganization of the majority of the voters in Orangeburg County. Can't ya'll see this is a sign for you to register new voters, old voters and especially ex convicts who are eligible to vote AGAIN?? "THE LORD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES"!!! Yes say prayers for Hazel (she was campus queen my freshman year) and John, (my old basketball buddy) but it is your "ACTS" as so called God fearing, praying people that will set you free. GET OUT THE VOTE AND PUT IN OFFICE SOMEONE ELSE TO REPRESENT YOU. The man didn't die, for goodness sakes. Hell even Marion Barry got re-elected. Come on Orangeburg. It's TIME TO GROW UP!!! "

Man has no final say-so! wrote on Jun 29, 2006 4:56 PM:

" We all have to realize that everyone falls short to the glory of God. So when we mess up, repent in the name of Jesus. He died for our sins and we must not take advantage. So i pray that this situation is handle very honsetly and properly, b/c in the end it doesnt matter what man says, we all have to answer to GOD on "judgement day". "

"REALISM" over "B.S." wrote on Jun 29, 2006 4:51 PM:

" I am a native of Orangeburg, and I am really not concerned about this issue. Maybe I should or maybe I shouldnt. That's just the way I feel. What I am observing is that everytime something negative happens to an African American, the first thing that comes out is racism. Everyone should know that yes racism still exist but one should also know that wrong is wrong. It just makes me upset to my stomache that we as black folk always seem to use a race issue to make us feel better when we "f--- up"! I mean lets be real...yes we do that, especially with issues like this. I must admit though, somthimes issues like this are from racist points....but, dont u think in order to determine if it racism involved, evaluate what actually happened! You cant go by other incidents with other races. The system is already down our back as it is, so for such a person to make such a gullible action, it really doesnt make sense. With all honestly, do you really think that he thought that under the table money for such a deal was just "angelic"....? Then u people yell out racist attack when caught!! This is a very hard case for him to prove himself...him against uncle sam...for christ sakes!!! And to the family, please dont get upset after reading some of these comments about you beloved....b/c honestly, you would be on here just the same or thinking the same if it were someone eles. Im not trying to be a jerk....just speaking a lil reality here folk. And by the way....regular citizens are not the only ones reading and making these comments if you know what I mean...this can have a big influence on the case. So when you make comments...dont scream out off comments such as "racism", "god knows u didnt do it", etc..he is a regular man that had a high profile and was just a tad bit gullibe...this cant be such a hard pill to swallow can it!! JUST GET OVER IT....its done now...everyone in the world is gonna find out one way or the other...twisted up some kinda way..good or bad. Lastly, I just hope that he has a very good reason and a damn good attorney! Peace:-) "

you gotta be crazy........ wrote on Jun 29, 2006 4:44 PM:

" Ok, let me get this straight.....he was raised in a good family....he knows lots of church folks.....so the FBI , for over a year, spent their time and money to "set up" this religious, educated man of color. Ok...guess my idea of religious is practicing what you preach. My idea of educated is making decisions that don't come back to effect your family, peers and even your whole community. Guess I need to go back to school and church.....should I start with his? "

howard wrote on Jun 29, 2006 4:38 PM:

" Is there a single BLACK person in this country ever guilty or is he always set up by the good old boys? I hope Rickenbacker is innocent. With that being said Blacks need to get out of past and move forward! "

ASJ wrote on Jun 29, 2006 4:07 PM:

" Wrong is wrong, and right is right! I personally do not believe that the federal government has put together an indicitment that is false. That is simply my belief. However, I do believe that GREED was at the root of all the decisions made by the councilman. If this is so, then why is it okay to justify his actions just because he's POPULAR! If we're going to be a society that adovocates morals, values, and God then we need to honest and truthful to ourselves and others. What he did is not okay. I don't care what he has done for the Orangeburg community. You can't mix good and evil. We must remember that if we want to teach our kids right from wrong then adults have to set an example! Especially adults in the public eye. We also have to ask ourself, "If this was and ordinary person would I still condone this type of behavior?" The answer is "NO"! We cannot let popularity and feelings of pride cloud our better judgement. I do feel for his family because this is an awful event for them to go through, however he's a grown man and he knew that he was making an awful decision. He should pay the consequences just like anyone else would. "

DE wrote on Jun 29, 2006 3:17 PM:

" "Twenty-Four hours after this story breaks and so much of the reaction is purely laughable. I hope you residents of Orangeburg realize what you are typing is being read by people on the "WORLD WIDE WEB". Regardless of how you feel to the issue at hand, I would hope that proper decorum would have precedence over some of the verbage I've read. All this knee jerk reaction just because you went to church with the man, or your child knows his child, therefore, this could not be possible. I can understand the shock, but keep in mind one thing: the entire course of events began when the Councilman allegedly asked for HIS palm to be greased. He may have been one of the best men ever at one time, but can anyone agree that it's possible for a good apple to turn bad? There seemed to be enough evidence presented by the U.S. attorney to a Grand Jury for them to return an inditement. There is a task force set up in our state to try and ferrett out those who would unjustly take personal advantage while at the same time being given the public trust. After all is said and done, this could be one of the best things to have happened to the man. "Community of Character" has been loudly touted in the county for the past several years. Let's see through this news event if you all have learned anything. Leave race out. Leave the church and the school system out. Let's go to court and see what happens. "

N o more assistant principal wrote on Jun 29, 2006 2:55 PM:

" I hope the school board is smart enough to not allow him to return to his job as assistant principal. I don't want him anywhere near my kids. He is no role model for them and definitely has bad judgement. Smoak won't take action against his buddy, so I hope Kalu will do it. The State needs to take his certificate. Someone tell me how race has anything to do with someone committing a crime. The dollar bill is green and this man was green with greed. He was out to make money and would take it from black men, white men, or any color. Thank God for the FBI and SLED, because the people in Orangeburg would have looked the other way. This is judging from your comments, because all you see is race, not right from wrong. It is wrong to take money. I hope he is not allowed to get near a school ever again. "

Rickenbaker Supporter wrote on Jun 29, 2006 2:29 PM:

" I was the first on this blog to comment on race and I do believe I spoke out of turn. Race had nothing to do with this. We in �SOUTH Carolina� don�t see color. �Justice is blind�. �Justice for all�. Those are all the �feel good� principles that this great nation was built on. Sure wrong is wrong, but I feel like this is a case of selective prosecution. An earlier poster spoke of �Pappa� Johnson getting arrested does anyone remember who proceeded �Pappa�. The biggest dope dealer in Orangeburg and he got off Scott free "

A Concern Citizen wrote on Jun 29, 2006 2:28 PM:

" I know there will be a backlash because of what I have to say; and frankly speaking I don't care. My point: We will mistreat each other in all posssible ways. Rob, stab, steal, and kill if we have to. In our churches we pretend to love God and hate each other. We don't even want to fellowship with this church, that church, another church, your church, and my church. Then, as soon as one of us is accused of a crime it becomes a race issue. If he asked for the money and was not suppose to have it how can someone else be at fault? Knowing him, his wife, and sons does not mean he is a saint. I trust, hope and pray that everything turns out well for him and his family. Now let me have it!!!!!!!! "

Pat Glaster-San Diego, CA wrote on Jun 29, 2006 2:14 PM:

" I read the comments by so many people, negative and positive. I've known the family for many years and it's not about knowing the family it's about justice being done. The systems has it "A man is guilty until proven innocent", what about innocent until proven guilty? Remember guilty or innocent-PRAYER CAN CHANGE PEOPLE, PLACE AND CIRCUMSTANCES. PRAYERS are always needed. Pray for all of those that are working in any position now days.The roads are rough and the going gets tough but for those who can pray how about doing it and stop prejudging until you know the whole story. "

BROTHERINCHRIST wrote on Jun 29, 2006 1:58 PM:

" JOHN MAY CHRIST BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IN THESE TRYING TIMES. NEVER LET ONE MISTAKE DISCOUNT ALL THE GOOD YOU HAVE DONE . JESUS SAVES AND FORGIVES. A.RAY --STAY ON THE BATTLEFIELD. "

NO EXCUSE wrote on Jun 29, 2006 1:28 PM:

" There is no excuse for an intellegent man in Mr. Rickenbackers' position to not know right from wrong. What was he thinking? Doesn't he know by now it is wrong to take money under the table? He is a disgrace to all of the people in political positions trying to do the right thing. I do hope that the justice system will pervail and he gets what he deserves. Money is not every thing and money received illegally can cost you every thing. "

Kristin wrote on Jun 29, 2006 1:21 PM:

" I don't agree with some comments that some people are making about how The T&D handled this story. First the news business is unbiased and if you don't agree then you don't work for the news. The first thing you learn is that anything you report has to be unbiased and factual. Rickenbacker is the person who allegedly took a bribe and he is the one that got caught. There was no conspiracy there is no kind of cover up. Fact is fact, there's no hiding that he was charged with a crime that was made public for ALL to see. "

Well Well wrote on Jun 29, 2006 12:49 PM:

" Another black mark on Orangeburg which continues its rich, recent tradition as a laughing stock around the state. No doubt bufoons will continue to be elected to public office because of the kind of blind, backward ignorance evident in so many of these comments. "

True Friends wrote on Jun 29, 2006 12:19 PM:

" Mr. Rick, if you were white, your circumstances would be different. You have done so much for Orangeburg County and we want to applaud you. We knew when the situation came about the chicken houses, something would go down. You can tell comments that were written by other races because they forget that Bush is making money off of the gas prices and Strom Thurmond loving his black women. We all have skeletons in our closets, no one is perfect. Harry Wimberly is no better than John Rickenbacker because he has plenty of skeletons in his closet. To the Rickenbacker family, keep your heads up because we're in this with you. We love Mr. Rickenbacker, he's a great man!!! "

Let he without sin cast the first stone! wrote on Jun 29, 2006 11:47 AM:

" Mr. Rickenbacker has done wonderful things for our community. Let's not forget the good things he has done. Lets not forget the positive programs he has brought to our community. So many of you are so quick to judge. Why don't you sit back and judge yourself. Mr. Rickenbacker has no reason to hold his head down. He is a man and he is human. If he's guilty then he will suffer the consequences. However we must never forget that he is human. We seem to put people on pedistals and when we are let down we get emotional. NO MAN IS WITHOUT SIN...JUST THINK if someone took the things you did wrong and put them in the paper or on the news...He is a man... you shouldn't expect anymore of him than you do of yourself or your children. "

CONCERN wrote on Jun 29, 2006 11:14 AM:

" A TRUE CHILD OF GOD DO NOT SUPPOSE TO PARTAKE WITH WRONG. I DO NOT CARE IF THE OFFER COMES...IF IT IS NOT OF "GOD", WE "SUPPOSE" TO REJECT!!!!!! "

Nap wrote on Jun 29, 2006 11:11 AM:

" Rick & Hazel, I love you guys unconditionally. You know where I am; don't hesitate for a moment. "

Friend of Family wrote on Jun 29, 2006 11:00 AM:

" I have known the Rickenabacker family for years, and went to school with his sons, Mrs Rickenbacker was my guidance counselor, and the thought of him being guilty is just unbelievable. I do believe he is INNOCENT and GOD will prevail over any judgements that man will bring! It was a set up , those people came to him...For the people who want to just accuse him of wrong doing it wasn't just him by himself but as a true "FRIEND or ASSOCIATE " or whatever you may call it, to the others in on the deal ...he has probably made the decision to not RAT on them , because nobody like a SNITCH! But before you go calling him a bad politician know that he has done more good for Orangeburg County than ever before, If I didnt know anyone on that council but Rick is one whom I do know because he was there doing a great job and not just locked up in an office or only attending the council meetings. he was an active player in this community who cares about the citizes!!! Most of all I just want to say to Mrs. Rickenbacker you are a wonderful woman, stay strong and my prayers and support are with your whole family. You have been an inspiration in my life and have given me much guidance in my life, and opportunities that I would have never come across without your help, I want to say THANK YOU and continue to keep your head up. My thoughts and attitude towards your family will never change, although many of the people whom you used to associate with will turn your backs on you from now on. "

"Whatever" wrote on Jun 29, 2006 10:56 AM:

" Whatever happened to being, "My Brothers Keeper". Mr. Rickenbaker has brought SADNESS to the citizens of Orangeburg, whether we are black, white, asian or hispanic. He has set such a stain on the political system as a whole. As a man he has discredited every young African-American man trying to "flip the script" on the views of society. For those present and past KKK members sending in their comments I say, "The noose ties the same way on every neck, long gone are the days of seeing STRANGE FRUIT hanging from trees. A PERSON has been indicted of a crime, A COUNCILMAN has been indicted of a crime. I have yet to see any articles, or news announcements classify him as a black man, a black councilman. Be very particular about what you say as well as what you think and remember SIN is SIN in any form, there are no degrees of sin". I JUST ASK THAT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND ASK GOD TO GRANT THEM PEACE, COMPASSION AND STRENGTH. wHO KNOWS THE NEXT ARTICLE MAY BE ABOUT ONE OF US. "

Obsever from Atlanta wrote on Jun 29, 2006 10:43 AM:

" See, I told you the GRAPEVINE knows what's going on. Like some else said,"It's just the tip of the iceberg!" "

Concerned in DC: wrote on Jun 29, 2006 10:10 AM:

" It grieves me to read a story of my native town. Justice will be served in the end. I am in the heart of corruption zone. I am neither for nor against the accusation. However, what grieves me more is the slander I have read in the comment section. As most have commented that ye without sin cast the first stone, this to shall pass, the love of money is the root of all evil. We forget the main commandment is to LOVE. Love one another as Christ love the church. This is not a Utopia town, city, state, country or world. Corruption was in the beginning and will be around for thousands of years to come. Corruption does not discriminate against sexual orientation, race, creed or socioeconomic background. I am sure what hurts any one more is the fact that we are all human and this could have happen to anyone. I was always told you never step on a man when he is down. Whether it was a set-up or a mistake the underlining case is as a citizen past, present or future it hurts to the core of our being. This is a hard pill to swallow and a hard bone to chew. My heart goes out to everyone that may be directly or indirectly involve. His family will also be in the ones in the most pain. But you as a concerned constituent of Mr. Rickenbacker will you be willing to provide his family with the support they so desperately need. "

Disturbed wrote on Jun 29, 2006 10:03 AM:

" The citizens of Orangeburg SHOULD demand that the people that they have placed in positions of responsibility act in good faith. We have people of all ethnicity that have disappointed us recently with their corrupt behavior. Being black does not make you innocent anymore than it makes you guilty. Every thing that happens in your life is not because of the color of your skin, and its the easy way out for alot of people who just do not want to make the effort to live productive lives. If he is guilty then prosecute to the full extent of the law... If he is innocent then give as much media coverage to his innocence as has been given to his indictment, and clear his name. "

S*L*H wrote on Jun 29, 2006 9:56 AM:

" My heart goes out to the family! This is truly a hard pill to swallow. This man stood for something and his family if he did iam sure he did not walk alone the devil comes in all shapes forms and fashion. To the family hold your head up and keep god first. To mrs rickenbacker keep being the sweet young woman that you are. "

Dianne wrote on Jun 29, 2006 9:49 AM:

" This is devastating for the community. However, let us pray for the

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