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Democrats fall short of goals in S.C. election

 Monday, November 10, 2008

14 comment(s) | Default | Large

THE ISSUE: Democrats in S.C.

OUR OPINION: A lot more voters, but GOP numbers grow in proportion

Democrats retained their hold on The T&D Region offices in Tuesday’s voting, but the hopes of the weeks before the election were not realized statewide.

Most notably, Democrats who were convinced the national polling was wrong and that Barack Obama would carry the day in the Palmetto State fell way short. Even with Democrats in control of the White Houes and both Houses of Congress – and 6th District Congressman James Clyburn holding the third-ranking position in the House – Republicans hold sway in this state.

GOP nominee John McCain got 54 percent of the vote in South Carolina compared to Obama’s 45 percent – a loss that leaves Democratic strategists shaking their heads about how to overcome the GOP here.

They had been looking to the Obama candidacy to energize African-Americans as it did during the primary season.

According to exit polling for The Associated Press by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International, nearly all black voters in South Carolina cast their ballots for Obama, surpassing their support for previous Democratic presidential candidates. But the black vote in South Carolina, as a proportion of the overall vote, was similar to previous elections.

With more than 70 percent of registered voters turning out, the results mean white voters were motivated in the 2008 election here, too. In the end, only about a third of them supported Obama.

The polling offers a profile of them:

• More than two-thirds earn more than $50,000 a year.

• Fewer than one in five are considered highly educated, meaning they are educated beyond one college degree.

• One in five said race was a factor in their decision, compared with about a third of McCain’s voters.

• They did not vote a straight Democratic ticket, with more than a quarter backing GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Bottom line from the exit polling results and as reported by Seanna Adcox of The AP in Columbia:

“Overall, white voters’ support for Obama on Tuesday represented no significant change from their support for Democrats in the last four presidential contests in South Carolina.”

The political landscape in the state has been theoretically left little changed by an election that is being called landmark for the country, even to the point of the state defying the national trend of under-30s supporting Obama 2-to-1. In South Carolina, just over half of young people supported Obama.

And since most of Obama’s support here came from those ages 30-64, the Palmetto State political mountain remains a steep one for the Democrats to climb for the foreseeable future.

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The following comments are reader submitted. They do not represent the views of The T&D or Lee Enterprises.

msjones wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 PM:

" Agape show me one instance where a racist comment was made regarding Obama on these posts; other than by you and wagreen. It is really getting on my nerves that people like youclaim that anyone who disagrees with Obama is racist. I am black and I disagree with Obama, and all though they are few and in between, I no other people of color that also disagree with his policies. The majority of black people admitted that the sole criterion for their voting Obama was his race; now that is true racism. Wagreen, you seem to be a biggest racist, so cram that down your throat. "

rump wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Why bring Palin into this topic?
And By the way Palin was one of the few HONEST insights to the issues. Also she showed what an idiot Joe Biden was(he made Dan Quayle look like a Rhodes scholar). She was the reason the Democrats hid him the last two weeks of the campaign. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:42 PM:

" I agree confisus_sum burn the sucker. Your ramblings mean nothing. The confederates lost get over, just like the republicans lost get over. McCain/Palin tried to pull out all of the stops and nothing worked. It was not meant for those clowns to win. So confisus_sum, if you want to be pals with them want you move to Alaska where you can wine and dine on moose burgers. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:44 PM:

" Wagreen - like most liberal lemmings, you ask a question, or make a statement, and when the answer does not fit your liberal mantra, you respond with personal attacks, suppositions, and of course the race card. You seem to be very in tune to their personal history. Are you equally knowledgeable about comrade obama's nefarious past associations? If the flag is such an embarrassment as you say, then why even put it in a museum? Why not destroy it, and all remnants of the confederacy? Your revisionist spin does little to counter the fact that the South was defending itself, just as the constitution instructed it to. At no time should the federal government impose it's will onto the states. What was done to the South by Lincoln, Grant and Sherman, was abhorrent. Using today's standards, they would have been tried and convicted of war crimes. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:16 PM:

" It is easy to align comrade obama and the socialist party. Their platform is identical. If you took the time to research his "plan", then compared it to the socialist party USA platform, explicitly laid out on their website, you would clearly see the striking similiarities. Universal healthcare-SAME, Allow immigrants-SAME, Forced community service-SAME, reduction in military-SAME,responsibility of the successful to support everyone-SAME, opposition to anti-terrorist initiatives-SAME, censure opposing views-SAME, collective mentality-SAME. The list goes on and on. These points are not derived from his color, they are derived from his mouth. His color is of no consequence, and he certainly should not be given a "free pass" because of it. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:41 PM:

" Confisus_sum, I still say take a hike. You can ramble about McCain being cleared but he does make bad decisions and that is why he is not president today, Sarah being the biggest bad decision he ever could make. The next is the fact that after he got back from being a POW, he left his wife after he saw the condition she was in and paid her off to shut her mouth. He is no maverick and loyal to no one but himself. No one in the state should be satisfied that a confederate flag, which represents hate, flys in the face of african-americans and people of color. That flag is an embarassement and should be put in a museum. I'm glad someone knows about the Palins and how fake they are, you were fool enough to vote for the fake moose from Alaska thats why you are so full of anger and hate. Again I say take a hike with your backward views and deliberations. Shine a light on your bridge to nowhere. OBAMA/BIDEN '08 "

agape wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:13 AM:

" Our new President elect, Mr. Obama has inspired, motivated, and gave hope to billions AROUND THE WORLD.
His election has changed the view and image of our country. Because of this war and the previous administration our image has been tarnished.
To call Obama a Socialist is down right ignorant. Its interesting how a PERSON OF COLOR is always viewed with suspicion and doubt. Its as if a person of color has to prove their Worth to the majority.
It shows that we as Americans... black, white, hispanic, asian have a lot healing. growing, and learning to do.
We make assumptions based on fear and lack of exposure to diversity.
I challenge those of you who are making these statements that are Anti-Obama to reach out to someone who make not look like you, or speak the same lanuage as you, to and ask questions about there culture, ideas, and beliefs ---you might be plesantly surprise to find that you have more in common than not. Lets work together and SUPPORT this BRILLANT NEW PRESIDENT BARRACK OBAMA! "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:37 AM:

" Surely you would love to see dissenting opinions "take a hike". That is the socialist way. Most companies care about their bottom line. If that were not the case, why would they locate in countries that promote child labor, slavery, no rights for women, etc...? The NAACP NEGOTIATED the flag's current location. Once they were without any high profile issues, they watched as their coffers ran dry, and their memberships roles decreased. The ONLY organization that benefits from this debate is them. For the record, I think that the flag should never have been flown in the first place. It was an obvious attempt at registering the state's dissatisfaction with the federal government's forcing of desegregation. But once the parties agreed on its present location, that should have been the END of this issue. In regards to McCain, he ADMITTED his involvement with the four other DEMOCRATS in this issue. He never lied about it. The Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston (D), Dennis DeConcini (D), and Donald Riegle (D) had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn (D) and John McCain (R) were CLEARED of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment". As far as Palin's husband, I don't remember him running for office. But it is quite interesting how you know so much about a candidate from Alaska, yet no so little about the Democratic President-elect. Finally being progressive does not mean that you bow down and cater to the blackmail of a devisive group, rather you take a stand and shine a spotlight on those that try to rewrite history in the way they WISH it had been. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:31 PM:

" confisus_sum, as always you are so out of touch with whats going on in America. That confederate flag is truly a dividing line in the state of S.C. North Carolina would not dare fly that in there citizens face and call themselves a progressive state. It is stubborn and it is wrong just like you. Yes businesses will move in but not at the rate that they would if that flag was not flying. Your candidate lost and rightfully so, you talking about ties, how about the Keatin scandal and the fact Gov. Palins husband was part of a group that wanted to separate from the United States. She is all in front of the cameras now after they hid her from doing interviews. Now she is speaking out and we are finding out what we knew all along that she is a bimbo. confisus_sum, you will be in the minority by 2012 and I hope your girl runs for president so the GOP will lose again. They are definitely on a road to nowhere and if we follow you we will be to. Take a hike confisus_sum "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:50 AM:

" Wagreen seems to be uneducated in the economic development that is occurring in our area. Companies locate here SPECIFICALLY because we are a Red state. We are pro-business, have no unions, limited regulations, and a desire to work. Most companies could care less about what flag is flying because it does not impact their bottom line. Now I will say that many are confused why a state with such a high minority population is being held hostage by the NAACP over the flag, which only hurts its citizens. The only racism on these forums seem to be the ones that show comrade obama's election was due to his race. Why are his policies not held up to close scrutiny? Or his associations? Blind allegiance to comrade obama seems to be very dangerous, as his followers stream down a path of socialism like lemmings. In closing, because conservatives voted against comrade obama is due to his policies, period. Hopefully more states will grow red as they recognize the path of socialism that comrade obama is intent on following, by his own admission. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:35 PM:

" rbrtsndr912, there is nothing great about the state of S.C. going red. It shows that racism is alive in S.C. and the state is not moving foward. That is the main reason why a lot of companies and development overlook S.C. and move to N.C. You all are living in the past, flying confederates flags on the state grounds etc. That is nothing to be proud of and you sound very racist cram that down your throat "

rbrtsndr912 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:19 AM:

" Hey Grateful, there was nothing "DIVINE" about this election. That is one of the truly scary things that really bother me about the "expectations" of "the one" or as Louis Farrakhan calls him "Messiah".

There is a vast difference between a Liberal and a Conservative...we are all Americans and we are for the most part moderates that either lean toward either left or right and very few are far left or right....but that is what we are. Just because you wish it to be does not make it so.

As a Moderate Conservative we have to make our position better known and have everyone understand why we believe what we believe. Our job really isnt't to talk you into our position, it's to fully define our position so that you understand, then make your own decision. "

GRATEFUL wrote on Nov 11, 2008 4:17 PM:

" This is so stupid. Why do we have to continue calling each other conservatives or liberals as if one is better than the other. I am conservative in some things and liberal in others. Why can't we just be Americans? The old hateful ways are gone forvever. This election is all DIVINE. "

rbrtsndr912 wrote on Nov 11, 2008 10:26 AM:

" Yeah, it's a hard one for Liberal's to figure out. Maybe it's just not a "color" thing. Maybe it does have something to do with values. Maybe if someone has conservative values he/she will vote for someone along those lines regardless of race/color/etc. No matter how much the Liberals try to cram it down my throat I am not a racist, I happen to believe in the conservative values and there are African Americans (granted few) that share those values. In the end, those values will reward everyone more than what you think you are running after. But, let's see what the next 4 brings us. I hope peace and prosperity but I sure am not going to bet my money on it. Too many now with their hands out, Europe included. Look around folks and be concerned, can you recognize Socialism...it's just an ocean away and will be on our shores shortly. "



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