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SCSU on short end of SBN poll

By THOMAS GRANT JR., T&D Senior Sports Writer  Tuesday, December 16, 2008

11 comment(s) | Default | Large

The system used to determine the teams involved in the Bowl Championship Series is not the only one generating scrutiny and controversy from college football fans.

On Monday, the Sheridan Broadcasting Network released its final Black College Football poll and crowned Grambling University this year’s “BCF National Champion.” The Southwestern Athletic Conference champion Tigers beat out Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference champion South Carolina State for the mythical title by 34 votes and earning 16 more first-place votes than the Bulldogs.

From an objective view, either team can make a legitimate claim for the top spot. Both Grambling (11-2) and S.C. State (10-3) ran the table in winning their respective regular-season titles and averaged double-digit margins of victory.

Grambling’s lone two losses came against 7-5 teams Nevada - a Division I foe headed to the Roady’s Humanitarian Bowl - and traditional Football Championship Subdivision power Northwestern State. S.C. State dropped two games to FBS teams Central Florida (4-8) and Gator Bowl-bound Clemson (7-5) and three-time defending FCS champion Appalachian State (11-3).

There are, however, some legitimate arguments S.C. State can make on its belief for receiving the top nod over Grambling. For openers, the majority of the various power ratings had the Bulldogs and the MEAC ranked higher than the Tigers and the SWAC.

If the MEAC-SWAC challenge is a measuring stick for which historically black conference is superior, the MEAC holds a 3-1 edge in that category.

Despite finishing with one less win than the Tigers, an argument could be made the Bulldogs’ record was more impressive given the level of competition. Not all losses are equal and like FBS teams which schedule games outside their comfort zone, SBN voters seemingly did not truly give S.C. State the full credit it deserved in traveling to two FBS teams and facing a Mountaineers’ team which had won 42 of its last 43 home games.

This lack of consideration was evident for much of the season prior to the FCS playoffs. Even after running off eight straight wins following the losses to Central Florida and Clemson, the Bulldogs remained in the number two position behind undefeated Division II school Tuskegee.

S.C. State was poised to move into the number-one position after Division II Tuskegee dropped its final game in controversial fashion. Unfortunately for the Bulldogs, they picked the wrong time to lose a first-round playoff game to the second-ranked Mountaineers.

With the opportunity to finish the season against a conference opponent it had already defeated (Jackson State), Grambling capitalized on its last chance to make a lasting impression on voters.

Not surprisingly, some S.C. State officials privately griped about the unfairness of SBN Sports Black College Football poll in both holding the losses they suffered more against them compared to other teams and ranking together schools competing in different classification levels. Does any college football observer believe if the two teams swapped schedules that the Golden Tigers would finish the regular-season with an unblemished record? How much more dominant would S.C. State look against Division II foes other than Benedict?

It’s apples and oranges, of course, but that’s the biggest problem with college football polls. In lieu of a Heritage Bowl, determining a Black College Football champion is not done on the field, but determined by the various whims of reporters, bloggers and commentators with various agendas. Inevitably, it creates hours of debate without a definitive answer one way or another.

Just don’t expect S.C. State head football coach Oliver “Buddy” Pough to speak out on the matter. As Pough has made clear more than once, his goal is to build the best FCS program - period.

Bulldog fans who witnessed the team play this season cannot deny that’s the direction he’s leading the program. In the end, such is the only consensus which counts.

SHERIDAN BROADCASTING NETWORK

FINAL BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL POLL

(First-place votes in parenthesis)

1. Grambling (23) - 267

2. South Carolina State (7) - 233

3. Tuskegee - 219

4. Prairie View - 181

5. Florida A&M - 153

6. Shaw - 116

7. Bethune-Cookman - 72

8. Tennessee State - 63

9. Jackson State - 41

10. Southern - 34

T&D Senior Sports Writer Thomas Grant Jr. can be reached by e-mail at tgrant@timesanddemocrat.com or by phone at 803-533-5547. Discuss this and other stories on-line at TheTandD.com.

 

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11 comment(s)
The following comments are reader submitted. They do not represent the views of The T&D or Lee Enterprises.

tiger man wrote on Dec 20, 2008 6:50 PM:

" To Chris' Cloths

For god sakes man! Do you ever see anything other than black and white? Liberty and Wofford are not as you say "white" colleges. I assure you that there is no such thing. Haven't you ever noticed that schools such as SCSU, Hampton, Howard, etc. are called HISTORICALLY Black Colleges and Universities. All these schools are open for persons of any race. Furthermore, I'm shocked that no matter what the subject seems to be, you feel the need to inject race into the discussion. This article was about a fictitious poll of HBCU football, and yet you saw fit to turn it into a racial matter. Had you said that the voting was influenced by favoritism, then I would have whole-heartedly agreed with you. We all know that Grambling State is a nationally known school in part because of the nationally televised Bayou Classic every year, but mainly because of legendary Coach Eddie Robinson.
That being said, congratulations to SCSU on the MEAC title and an outstanding season. As a lifelong citizen of Orangeburg, and a rabid football fan, I look forward to next season and more Bulldog victories!! "

bigrasii wrote on Dec 19, 2008 9:12 AM:

" Norwegian,

I think we are going to forgive your answer here because the subject is about "BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL". I understand you are tired of hearing about a race and culture that has had to fight so long for equality in all other areas but that's over with because we are no longer oppressed! However we are speaking on a injustice within the black football community. Their was no racist comments made here thru my evaluation. The reference to white schools, acquiring the highest office in the land and our voter turnout was for the sake of precedence that has been established because we are fairly new to being the best so we are trying to adjust to polls and such. But trust and believe we are veterans of injustice. We apologize if policing within ourselves seem so racist to you but perhaps researching the subject a little further in the future will help you to understand the content and what the anticipated outcome the bloggers were expecting. We hope you have a better understanding of what the topic was now and if not please comment as we will elaborate as much as you require to understand. But also for future reference just like our Bulldogs we are so far past Racism because we are so far into success. Also what would white people have to complain about? Thanks for participating. "

norwegian wrote on Dec 18, 2008 8:50 AM:

" Its always racism isn't it. Why don't you just figure that the cards didn't fall our way this year. Its something to build on not a racism issue. You all sound like a broken record. If whites cried racism like you all nothing would ever be resolved. Grow up and get some thicker skin. "

bigrasii wrote on Dec 18, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Well guys as you all have seen me on these blogs, I am a huge fan of Bulldog football, Coach Buddy and Justice! The only reason I am not screaming bloody murder here is because I am under the same understanding of Coach Buddy and that is we are going to show and prove over the next few years that a consistent winner will win out in debates. (Plus many many schools out there are watching and wanting our Coach! That was for you SCSU School Board!)Of course we got shafted but a major part that we are not realizing in this is popularity and with that because we are in SC we will not get the benefit of the doubt. So with that we are going to take our steady and progressive success with the best football program in black college football and we are going to emulate the success of such power houses like App State and Georgia Southern. I urge all of us to embrace this terrible decision because it will make our future success that much sweeter because it will cause those homecoming fans and classic fans to show up at every home game to capacity and buy every away game and classic ticket available. The numbers don't lie and although I am in the minority in this state that happen to be a Bulldog fan rather than a USC or Clemson fan, their fan attendance numbers and supporters go such a long way. If they were on the border of being selected for a bowl or something of that nature they would get selected if only for their economic impact of ticket sales alone. They have that type of reputation around the country and yes it is real and it helps. We have to continue to show them that we are a force that has to be dealt with! The black dollar is the most coveted in the world and we need to use it strategically to our advantage just like we showed with our votes!(Yes we can!) We need to set up a petition for the resurgence of the Heritage Bowl and not wait on folk who would name anyone else Black National Champions this year besides the best in the land (SCSU). This is not a slight against a great institution like Grambling but this is about what is proven on the gridiron and not just someone's historical presence. I challenge all of us to get the ball rolling seeking major sponsors for the Heritage Bowl to include a prime time slot with maximum exposure and present a plan to every HBCU for support. We have kicked open the doors of opportunity where it has been shut in our face before but it is time to become the flagship for leadership not just in the highest office in the land but when it comes to setting up a system that would give fair credit where it is earned and not by preception. It is high time we stop waiting for the obvious inferior experts to present it to us what they think and take this old school like when a man beat a man straight up he was the UNDISPUTED WINNER am I right old school folk? Love ya'll and GO DAWGS! "

Pitbull wrote on Dec 16, 2008 6:18 PM:

" After taking a step back...I have come to realize that I need to chill and accept this for what it isn't....and that is a FCS Championship...and that's what we are working towards....Not a consolation prize...We want the whole ball of wax... "

Reddawg wrote on Dec 16, 2008 4:58 PM:

" This Black College Football poll is brass ackward and out of touch with ranking. SCSU will smack that Division 11 team any day any time. I'll put my money on em Dawgs. "

Chris' Cloths wrote on Dec 16, 2008 4:14 PM:

" How can we be ranked 13th in the 1-AA poll ahead of some powerful white colleges like Liberty and Wofford(who almost upset USC), and finish second in the Sheridan poll. Do the kids at Sheridan Elementary school vote on this poll. We have to play USC and GA Tech next year. We got to try and get one of those. We have a strong alumni in Atlanta, so we will have fans for GA Tech. USC can get got. they have no running game. Their QBs are young. And they lose Mckinley,Mike Davis, and Jasper Brinkley. if we play them like did App. St. and UCF we can get a win. "

AMTRAK101 wrote on Dec 16, 2008 12:21 PM:

" ARE YOU SERIOUS. THE WHOLE COUNTRY KNOWS THAT SCSU SHOULD HAVE BEEN CROWNED CHAMPS. THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW THE WORLD GOES. WE NEED TO SCHEDULE TUSKEEGEE AND GRAMBLING OUR FIRST TWO GAMES NEXT YEAR AND IT WILL SET THE HATERS STRAIGHT "

enough_already wrote on Dec 16, 2008 11:09 AM:

" This is the reason that the SBN Black College Football Poll is a joke. All fans of HBCU football know that the MEAC has the strongest football conference in all of Black College Football. The only reason Grambling got the nod over SCSU was because of name recognition only. Every Grambling is on television playing the Bayou Classic; this gives everybody a chance to see them on national televison. SCSU plays on ESPNU which many households don't have unless you have the extended sports package. It's is also ludacris how a Division II school can be ranked ahead of a Divison I school. You would never see a FCS school ranked ahead of a FBS school. SCSU made it to the FCS playoffs while Tuskegee and Grambling didn't make it to the FCS playoffs or the Division II playoffs. Everybody knows that The South Carolina State Bulldogs are the 2008 Black College Football Chanmpions. "

Pitbull wrote on Dec 16, 2008 9:03 AM:

" Somebody please tell me how we only get 7 first place votes....Somebody needs to be on the phone right now setting this game up for next year.... "

bosshogg wrote on Dec 16, 2008 8:34 AM:

" this poll is ridiculous..... "



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