S.C. State warned by accrediting agency
By LEE TANT, T&D Staff Writer Thursday, December 18, 2008South Carolina State University has been placed under a one-year warning by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools for failing to comply with the accrediting agency's standards.
S.C. State President Dr. George Cooper said that while a warning from SACS "is always serious," it does not affect the university's accreditation status.
"It's our intent to be fully compliant with SACS standards. We'll be doing so," Cooper said Wednesday following a three-hour board meeting held entirely in executive session.
The meeting was called to receive legal advice related to the SACS warning, Board Chairman Lumus Byrd said. Byrd referred any questions regarding the SACS warning to Cooper.
A warning is the lesser of two possible sanctions from SACS. If S.C. State fails to correct or make progress in the areas it was warned about, it could receive probation.
Calls to SACS officials were not returned on Wednesday.
Cooper believes the warning gives the university time to take corrective measures. S.C. State is up for reaccreditation by SACS in 2010.
The university has not received a full report from SACS yet on the warning, Cooper said. Once the final report is in hand, the university will be able to adequately respond, he said.
"The university will inform stakeholders following the submission of its response to the warning and final action by SACS," a university press release said.
SACS says it warned the university about its failure in:
* Following SACS requirements for governing boards.
* Maintaining a clear distinction between the role of the board and administration.
* Making the administration ultimately responsible for the athletic program.
* Giving the president control over university fundraising activities.
* Giving faculty primary responsibility for the execution of the university's academic programs.
Cooper said public statements and media coverage prompted SACS to send a special review team to S.C. State earlier this year. That team submitted its findings to SACS, which decided to warn the university.
Cooper said the concerns regarding the separate roles of the board and administration arose prior to his arrival at S.C. State.
During a March phone interview, SACS Vice President Dr. Rudolph Jackson said the accrediting body was looking into issues at S.C. State involving the separation of policy making and the administration.
Some university stakeholders had accused the board of micromanaging former President Dr. Andrew Hugine's administration.
The board's removal of Hugine last December was not an issue, Jackson said.
T&D Staff Writer Lee Tant can be reached by e-mail at ltant@timesanddemocrat.com or by phone at 803-534-1060.
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Reddawg wrote on Dec 23, 2008 7:53 PM:
d'back1894-1911 wrote on Dec 23, 2008 4:36 PM:
What I will say about this blog...post...whatever is this. If you are SCSU Alumni and are on here bashing the school you are in the wrong place to be doing so. Feeding these vultures the fuel that they need to desecrate SCSU is not the proper way to support your school. If you ARE NOT ALUMNI (i.e. didn't attend the school, or people that have been career students and never received a diploma) DO NOT...I REPEAT...DO NOT blasphemy my Alma Mater by posing, or speaking of something you do not know much about; or maybe nothing at all.
I am presuming that all of us here are African American? Why are we attempting to destroy a school that supports our heritage, one of our own? Why are we attempting to tear eachother down? Why? As Red DAWG stated, this is not an english class so if that user so chooses to slacken his jaw, then so be it. Though I choose not to, I see where that user is coming from.
All of these are valid arguments, but where is it going to get SCSU? NOWHERE! Are you going to run for president of SCSU. Are you going to run for a board seat to make a change? If you are not going to contribute, then I suggest closing your mouth toward comments. I put on for my school...what about you? Where did you go? How have you contributed? I am 24 years old and I support my school to the fullest financially and in other ways.
Someone made a comment of SCSU not being able to handle SCSU as a president because of the tools in their tool box...maybe that is true, but this president matriculated @ FAMU, so what does that have to do with the current situation? This is what I mean about opening mouths with nothing to say. Don't get me wrong you are all making intresting arguments, but some of you should be mute when it comes to these situations because its a "family affair", we don't need to be airing out our laundry either. If you want to get into discussion with family about family business then log onto somwhere else...the newspaper is not the place to do this at all.
Holla @ ya boy...to all that know SCOONEY! to my P Slash family, and Yo to my NUPES.
-D'Back...out. "
amtrak101 wrote on Dec 23, 2008 10:55 AM:
gagt76 wrote on Dec 23, 2008 9:57 AM:
cherokee wrote on Dec 23, 2008 9:10 AM:
The attitude of Administration has been one of telling Faculty that they must "award" passing grades where a failure grade was warranted. This stern approach to give unfounded grades have led to a very submissive Faculty and Staff. If the warnings are ignored Faculty tenure and possible firings were hinted at and actually have occurred.
Then there is the problem with Faculty being "graded" by each class the has been taught. If the grades submitted by his/her class is negative, then that Faculty member could suffer, and indeed be fired, even if the class were subjected to the very best teaching.
With the appointment of a new VP, however, much has changed. Students who complain about poor grades have a tough road to travel in obtaining better unwarranted grades. Wonder how long this VP will be on campus or be forced to change his instructions?
Another problem, originating with the "Good Old Boys" club has its basis in the Financial Department. We have been the victim of many cases of downright theft. One FO served time for his part but several others that stole tens of thousands of dollars from the University were merely fired. No restitution was ever collected from these thieves. And this Department has not been the only Department so affected with theft. Bet you can name at least one other Department.
Under Hugine's rule, it became commonplace for the University to hire companies owned or operated by relatives or friends. Sometimes they delivered and other times they didn't. In fact, bidding was bypassed in many instances by issuing contracts of less than $1,500 so that these companies would not have to compete. These contracts, also, were doled out multiple times, sometimes to do the same job. One thing is certain. They walked off campus with money in their pocket even if they didn't finish the job.
Another Hugine legacy is the fact that Administration had a policy in effect wherein certain VP's could hire friends and relatives for jobs under their immediate control at salaries that didn't match their duties.
One factor that is negative is the requirement that all incoming students to take part (and pay for) a semester of PE. Very few other Universities and Colleges require PE. This cost to the students was set in place when the Athletics Department ran into the red. To make up for this, SCSU decided to start PE as a requirement.
Another factor was the confiscation of "Laboratory Fees" by the University for uses not connected with Laboratories. Originally designed to offset some of the costs by several Academic Departments in the purchase of expendable materials require to conduct required laboratory classes, these fees now are used by another Department to pay for phones, TV, and Internet connections in the dorms. Who suffers? The Departments that need to have Laboratories. And the worst part is that every student has to pay these fees even if the student lives off campus so the students also suffer.
Mr. President. Stop these practices now. "
Reddawg wrote on Dec 22, 2008 10:49 PM:
beamer22 wrote on Dec 22, 2008 4:04 PM:
With all this going on, it is only logical for businesses and organizations to believe that a graduate of S.C. State may not have the best tools in their tool box.
And, honestly, they are correct most of the time. There are several reasons Winthrop University is considered the premiere school for teachers in South Carolina as opposed to S.C. State. This is not to talk down on S.C. State, it just seems that the school has not been able adapt to change and continues to be content with less than best.
Maybe I'm wrong.
If so, please explain. "
cherokee wrote on Dec 22, 2008 1:40 PM:
His prior dissertation was a dis-service to both the educators and to the students at SCSU. However, in his rebuttal he still doesn't get the fact that we are offering positive comments -- unless Dr. Cooper knows about the problems, they will never be corrected. I can bet that some of the problems on campus have been hidden from him or he has been told something else instead of the truth. To only be told "rosy" half-truths is inane. He must know the actual truth.
Hey. Maybe "RedDawg" is a member of the "Good Old Boys Club" and doesn't want Dr. Cooper to know about what has and what may be occurring on campus. This would keep SCSU near bottom.
All Dr. Coope3r has to do is to look, listen, and heed our prayers. "
cherokee wrote on Dec 22, 2008 8:33 AM:
I fully agree with "TotallyDisgusted" and with ICU81 in their comments. Some of the Comments from readers appear to be totally uneducated, perhaps never graduating from high school or else 'they were fabricated' to make it appear that SCSU's students are not being educated properly.
We can bring about changes by insuring that Administrators down to the Faculty are fully capable of providing the education opportunities that our students deserve. This is accomplished by insuring that the best Administrators and the best Faculty are available to do the job. However, due to favoritism, kinmanship, and ignorance, we have had to endure untold hazards that is unknown to the general public. The hiring practices, decades old, must be revamped and the "Good Old Boys" club vanquished. It is time to come from the dark ages into the light. We deserve this. "
Reddawg wrote on Dec 22, 2008 6:21 AM:
BHT wrote on Dec 21, 2008 10:08 AM:
TotallyDisgusted wrote on Dec 20, 2008 7:18 PM:
As an employer, any resume that reached my desk, with that many spelling and grammatical errors, would promptly be DISCARDED. "
ICU81 wrote on Dec 19, 2008 7:12 PM:
Reddawg wrote on Dec 19, 2008 10:43 AM:
confisus_sum wrote on Dec 19, 2008 10:06 AM:
cherokee wrote on Dec 19, 2008 9:00 AM:
cherokee wrote on Dec 19, 2008 8:48 AM:
He is also correct about Hugine. But Hugine was not the only one that got us into trouble. He omitted Davis as one of the factors. As to both previous Presidents, both failed to do their job as required. Neither can claim success only failure. Promises made. Promises broken. That is their legacy.
It is also a well known fact that both the Faculty Senate and the Staff Senate are pawns of the Administration and can only praise the Administration. Neither Senate are willing to express themselves honestly. The same can be said about your Committee on Campus Safety. There are enough safety problems on campus that could cause us to be shut down because they affect all Schools and Colleges.
As to campus security. SCSU is known for its cover up of crimes committed by its students and others and its failure to publish information correctly as required by Federal law. Campus Police are also known for their willingness to fire its officers when they either speak out or fully follow the law. It has happened too many times in the past for it not to be happening today.
There is another problem that needs to be addressed and resolved immediately. That is the failure of Campus Police to deliver to the Deans of Schools and Colleges a copy of any report of theft, break ins, etc. that affect their areas of responsibility. Without proper knowledge, these Deans are being left out of the loop. Also these Deans cannot file Insurance Claims if they never receive this information. Also please note that thefts of equipment around campus costs the University tens of thousands of dollars per year. Prevention of these thefts could be a key factor in resolving money crunches.
PS Campus Police: SODEXO plays no role in these reports except knowing of any damage to the building.
Now for another problem. The present Chief of Police has instigated some new features that could be of significant benefit to the Faculty, Staff, and Students around campus. That is if these suggestions are ever implemented and they do need to be implemented immediately. Several could save lives.
Let it be known that you have inherited these problems from previous Presidents. However only you can resolve these problems. "
norwegian wrote on Dec 19, 2008 8:26 AM:
wisebulldog65 wrote on Dec 18, 2008 10:16 PM:
ICU81 wrote on Dec 18, 2008 6:57 PM:
ICU81 wrote on Dec 18, 2008 6:51 PM:
Chris' Cloths wrote on Dec 18, 2008 5:33 PM:
wisebulldog65 wrote on Dec 18, 2008 4:09 PM:
2ndGenerationBulldog wrote on Dec 18, 2008 1:59 PM:
So, minus bosshogg, whose fault is this? Is it that the BOT won't relinquish any control? Or is it that the President won't take control? Is it that the rules we've been governed under this long is just a mish-mash of stuff we put together over the years with exceptions to the rules, and exceptions to the exceptions of the rules?
Who enjoys going to homecoming? You cry and complain about not having enough people in the stands... you won't have anyone in the stands if we lose our accreditation. Ask Morris Brown. So, continue to take this lightly! "
whatzgoingon wrote on Dec 18, 2008 1:50 PM:
wda_33 wrote on Dec 18, 2008 1:10 PM:
bosshogg wrote on Dec 18, 2008 1:04 PM:
and lost.
these charges were brought up based on info sent to SACS by Andrew Hugine. And you know why he did that....because he LOVES his alma mata so much "
enough_already wrote on Dec 18, 2008 10:49 AM:
cherokee wrote on Dec 18, 2008 9:31 AM:
I know that problems with SACS did not occur under your tenure, but you need to know that SACS isn't your lone accreditation agency. There are others in the wind that may cause accreditation problems also. In fact, some of these agencies may be on campus this year to gather preliminary facts about the Programs they certify and accredit.
Problems with SACS isn't new. Previous Presidential actions have jeopardized accreditation time and again. Also please realize that there are other parties within the State that would love us to fail.
Please let us have an uneventful re-certification this time. "
norwegian wrote on Dec 18, 2008 8:36 AM:
bosshogg wrote on Dec 18, 2008 7:45 AM: