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Let's clear the air

 Monday, November 09, 2009

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In response to Bill Kinlaw’s attempt to rebut my recently published article “Wilson’s fear and beware tour,” I will bring some clarification to the proclamations that were made. While not giving an endorsement of approval to the congressman’s gathering in North, I did not attack its core intent to inform the people and to permit a forum to verbally vent the audience’s concerns, just to bring attention to some information provided.

Congressman Joe Wilson’s frequency of or the longevity of holding town hall meetings are not pertinent to the revelations that were made in my article. The representative’s dedication and commitment are commendable and impressive indeed, but not of consequence at this time. Providing a venue to allow citizenry an opportunity to voice their concerns has and will continue to be an essential part of the American political process.

However, information that is delivered to those same constituents should be legitimate and factual. I do not have issue with the dissemination of accurate, unbiased and certifiable data. All data issued should be subject to scrutiny as to the origin of the data, integrity of data and its collector, verifiability of said data, repeatability of the data -- if research were conducted by someone independent of the original findings, and whether the issuer of the information has ties to the concerns being addressed.

As representatives of the people, federal, state and local lawmakers are responsible and duty-bound to ensure that information passed on to their constituents is totally truthful, devoid of political aligning, and not include dire personal revelations that are merely conjecture and lack substance. The eyes and ears of our delegates are our link to legislative activities and the veracity of those reports are important.

Secondly, I am an active participant in the South Carolina and national voting processes and extremely cognizant of the voting records of any and all persons whose activities are vital to the promotion of my well-being and concerns. Every person should periodically check the records of their representatives and not assume because you elected them that everything their designee does has your best interests at heart.

The honorable Congressmen James Clyburn and Jack Spratt’s methods of keeping their constituents informed do not have to mirror those of Wilson. They have chosen their own unique manner of communicating with the residents of their areas. The mode and frequency of the information dispensed are secondary to its overall truthfulness, impartiality and completeness.

Sen. Brad Hutto and Rep. Bakari Sellers have never failed to keep the citizens of their districts abreast to current political activity. That is incumbent of them as elected officials. The popularity of these representatives is an indication of voter approval as to the delivery and means of transfer of essential information.

Finally, the issue of universal health care coverage for the masses is a festering sore that has needed attention for a long time. Doomsayers have sought to deliver an epitaph and send the prospect of ensuring the well-being of all citizens to a premature grave. Cries of coverage being extended to illegal immigrants and undocumented workers are constant ravings of those who seek to generate misgiving among the least informed. Financial devastation will be the result of any legislation endorsed by the Obama administration, rant so-called conservatives. One has to wonder about the real intent of those who until recently were able to include health care reform in their vocabularies.

The perpetuation and continual support of the practice of denying coverage to citizens with pre-existing conditions and ignoring the plight of the less fortunate seems to be the primary focus of those whose war chests are being replenished by health care interests. The proposed legislation may not be perfect, but at least we should make an attempt to rectify the shortcomings of our current system. The worst thing that we can do is to do nothing at all for the citizens of the world’s most prosperous country.

-- Harold Thomas, Orangeburg

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66 comment(s)
The following comments are reader submitted. They do not represent the views of The T&D or Lee Enterprises.

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 AM:

" Classy; to further clarify, I read the original HR3200 and this one; HR3962. Try not to let your frustrations surface here... stick to the nuts & bolts of the issues. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:35 AM:

" shlomoe; No I have never been 2nd gen bulldog. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 AM:

" Classy; there are many folks in the U.S. who qualify for Medicaid but have not bothered to apply for it. And "NO", I don't have a "scr_w everybody else" attitude about anything. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:28 AM:

" Classy; my point was that even though folks don't have insurance, the ER will not turn you away for an emergency. Many treat the ER as their personal Doctor's Care. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 AM:

" Classy; It doesn't say anywhere that ANYONE is to have healthcare in the Constitution. I was without any form of insurance for a year and a half, but my point was (see next post) "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 AM:

" Classy; I have not waited 8 hours in the ER since my emergency was a heart attack. No American has a "Right" to expect health care from the government. The Constitution does NOT provide forit. "

bravo14sc wrote on Nov 16, 2009 10:21 PM:

" Type o - Wagreen you took away from Mr Thomas well written letter with your rabid and foaming posts - Congrats "

bravo14sc wrote on Nov 16, 2009 10:01 PM:

" You are right about one thing though. Had we not wasted billions on iraq/afghanistan some sort of program like that might have been financially conceivable(though unconstitutional). This & Cap-and-Trade bill will bankrupt the US. "

bravo14sc wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:50 PM:

" The dollar dropped when the house care bill passed the house. If it passes, your savings will be worth half as much. Hyper-Inflation would be the only outcome. Gold is now $1040 an oz. "

rump wrote on Nov 16, 2009 9:10 PM:

" Wa: I hope on the next article of discussion. That you will be respectful and not call anyone names whose opinions and Facts might differ from yours.
IfNotTakePostingEtiquette. Thank you "

rump wrote on Nov 16, 2009 5:29 PM:

" Wa: Once again U r in error. I was not BORN in the South; therefore I am not Southerner!!
Northern born, Northern bred, and when I die I will be Northern dead!!!!! "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 16, 2009 3:33 PM:

" rump, if you live in S.C. you are a southerner.Take some stimulus and learn georgraphy,now thats a fact you should be aware of.You don't know where you live "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 16, 2009 2:00 PM:

" You libs are not actually going to try and use the constitution in this debate? This is unconstitutional and an abuse of federal power. "

rump wrote on Nov 16, 2009 12:26 PM:

" Wa: Since I am not a Southerner, how can it be my confederate falg?
One again you are WRONG!!!! Can you get anything right??? "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 16, 2009 11:31 AM:

" Debut..why should uninsured americans who have the same rights as you do need to use the ER as their insurance? Have you waited 8 plus hours to be seen by a doctor? "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 16, 2009 6:58 AM:

" wagreen, with all the excellent posts by "debut" you single out rump for some racist trailer park comment. Why not debate "debut's" facts. What are you afraid of? "

rump wrote on Nov 15, 2009 7:25 PM:

" Wa: When facts stare you in the face all you can do is demean people! Show some "class".
Also use FACTS. You do know what facts are> "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 14, 2009 11:11 PM:

" Debut..you question Mr. H.T. sources, please provide us with your sources. I'm sure you have sat down and read every last page of the proposed healthcare bill...no you haven't? shame on you! "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 14, 2009 11:05 PM:

" Debut.."my healthcare" you tell me where in the constitution does it say only people such as yourself should have healthcare? I guess as long as you've got yours, scr_w everybody else. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 14, 2009 6:49 PM:

" Further more rump,wbwjr and confiscum climb up the flag pole and fly in the wind with your confederate flag.You would rather fly that flag then unite the state.You all are ignorant "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 14, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Im convinced that rump and confiscum work for the newspaper.You to are a scam just like Wilson and Sanford.Take that 1000 and move out of the trailier park "

shlomoe wrote on Nov 14, 2009 4:49 PM:

" NouveauDebut

Did you use to be 2nd gen bulldog? "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 13, 2009 5:26 PM:

" Rump,take that $1,000 and move out of that trailer park you reside in.Nothing about Bush's admin was smooth. You rep. have short term memories.Bush was a mess and Sanford messier "

rump wrote on Nov 13, 2009 5:25 PM:

" The sad thing is that it is cheaper to insure the people who do not have insurance! "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:19 PM:

" All of us have a stake in what the outcome of this bill is if it becomes law! Maybe increased taxes, health insurance premiums, penalties for not getting involved and increased costs passed on. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:12 PM:

" Political Affiliation and Emotional Polarization matter ZERO in getting to the truth. Stripped, all of us will either SUFFER or BENEFIT from legislation that becomes law. For or Against matters little if you're QUIET! "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:09 PM:

" I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU IN YOUR RESPECTIVE FIELDS IN THE UNIVERSITY AND COLLEGES AND LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO GET ON THIS SECTION AND "SAY" SOMETHING TO REVEAL THE FACTS AND DISPEL THE FALSE!!!! "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:07 PM:

" Orangeburg County has a tremendous amount of intellectual resources. Why have you been silent on these and other issues? Why do you sit by quietly while the name callers dominate the "Comment" section? "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:04 PM:

" For way too long, regardless of political affiliation, we have sat quietly by watching this mess take place and have done nothing. Now is the time to get off the couch and do something. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:02 PM:

" WBWJR, you are correct in your research; this bill IS unconstitutional! Our elected officials are NOT doing their jobs and should be replaced as a result. TARP and Cap & Trade are also UC! "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 4:00 PM:

" There are well over fourteen thousand hits on this web site daily. We have Clafflin, State and a slew of educational professionals...Why haven't the educational elite in this community commented???? Are you AFRAID? "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:57 PM:

" Kinslaw & Wilson are correct, and if all of you would do some research instead of tagging and name calling, a lot would be accomplished. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:56 PM:

" Is it worth turning the health care of 300 million upside down for the sake of 7 million who currently use the ER? I think not. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:55 PM:

" If all of you think that the uninsured have no health care... think again. The ER is their health professional. I know, I've done it more than once with heart attacks! No One turned away. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Classy, I have walked more than a mile without any insurance. No insurance and a major heart attack! Was I refused health care? No, certainly not! I was flown to Providence and a triple BP. "

wbwjr wrote on Nov 13, 2009 10:30 AM:

" Tell me ware in the U.S Constitution
that gives the congress the authority
to take over my health care.I can't find
it pray tell ware. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:41 AM:

" To all who have commented; Google the issues and do some reading. Check the sources and judge for yourselves. Don't fall prey to those who make unsubstantiated statements. Step OUTSIDE the Box! Take care. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:38 AM:

" Mr. H.T., if you continue to write without the benefit of "Sources" to back up your statements, then you will be no better than a "Propaganda" pusher, deceiving and distracting those from the facts. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:35 AM:

" Mr. H.T., Mr. Kinlaw raises a lot of points that you fail to address in your rebuttal. Can you address those points without "Tagging", "Emotion", and stick to the facts with references? "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:32 AM:

" Mr. H.T., if you could or would address only the "Nuts & Bolts" of the issues without the "Tagging" of those who raise questions pertinent to the issues, maybe intelligent discourse would result. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:29 AM:

" Mr. H.T., I have read the comments and they are rife with emotion and little else. They are the example of the polarization that prevents intelligent discourse on any subject written about. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:27 AM:

" Mr. H.T., Do you really expect to reach the public with words like; "Doomsayers, Cries, Ravings, Rant", in your article? Are you not practicing the art of deception, distortion and distraction from the facts? "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:23 AM:

" After reading the comments sent in by the readers on this article and the article that spawned this one, it would seem (H.T.,your approach to the truth), that they practice the same labeling techniques. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:20 AM:

" Mr. Thomas, your title; "Let's clear the air", does little to accomplish that goal for the readers of this piece. You may have clarified the communication events of politicians, but little else. "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 13, 2009 12:02 AM:

" Debut..ask the thousands of American Citzens, who are without health insurance what their quality of life is like! Walk a mile in another man's shoes and see how it feels. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 12, 2009 2:39 PM:

" Mr. Thomas, have you read this bill? If you have, then can you comment on the different parts that will affect your life personally? "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 12, 2009 2:38 PM:

" Mr. Thomas, there are certainly many agendas with regards to this legislation, but as a citizen, it behooves one to be in the know about the potential this bill has for impacting quality of life. "

NouveauDebut wrote on Nov 12, 2009 2:36 PM:

" Mr. Thomas, you write a good response, but the last 2 paragraphs are very misleading. Your indirect labeling of those who contest contents of the bill is discouraging. "

rump wrote on Nov 12, 2009 1:35 PM:

" And Wa: Obama inherited this mess from that recession-causing,do-nothing Congress of 2007-09!
Remember: Fact: 1.Economy running smooth until 2007!
2.Who took over Congress in 2007? "

rump wrote on Nov 12, 2009 1:23 PM:

" Wagreen: I will give $1,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you can show how I twist your words around.
FACTS is what I use. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 12, 2009 11:36 AM:

" Southern ignorance? You mean the ability to ignore political correctness and speak the truth? The T&D will not post my impression of you wagreen, sorry. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 12, 2009 11:34 AM:

" Please speak to the topic at hand. amazing how obamanites refuse to address the fact that Wilson told the truth. I guess cause their hero has been proven to be a liar. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 AM:

" It will take more than 10 or 11 mo. to straighten it out.Rump you and confisussum are the epitome of southern stupidness and the product of southern ignorance "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 AM:

" rump,I speak to you this way because your comments are childish.You twist folks words and you act like these things just occured yesterday.Obama inherited this mess from your boy Bush "

rump wrote on Nov 11, 2009 9:06 PM:

" Confis: I do not know if some know how to read. The only things some seem to be able to read are "minds". Some seem to know what you are thinking.SomeNeverReadWhatYouSay in YourPosts. "

agape wrote on Nov 11, 2009 8:46 PM:

" Wilson, like some others, are having a hard time accepting an African American in a position of Leadership. Critize Obama, it still remains..He is OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. :-) "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 11, 2009 4:56 PM:

" rump....twisting my words reveals your true narrow mindedness. Obamanites are the only ones with true 20/20 vision!! And it doesn't get any clearer than that. "

rump wrote on Nov 11, 2009 3:49 PM:

" Wa: Why do you ALWAYS call people names and attack them when they disagree with your ideas?
You never use facts just childish attacks!!
Annoy a liberal use facts and logic. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 11, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Why won't you lemmings comment on the bill Wilson was referring to? BECAUSE IT PROVES HE WAS RIGHT. "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 11, 2009 8:39 AM:

" Great article.Joe Wilson is spreading lies and can only relate to rednecks like rump who is anti anything OBAMA.Get over it rump, you rednecks are outnumbered now. KICK ROCKS "

wagreen1 wrote on Nov 11, 2009 8:38 AM:

" Wilson is a jerk.He does not care about those rednecks,they are just stupid enough to listen.He is a poor example to our youth.Hes the biggest LIAR "

rump wrote on Nov 10, 2009 9:15 AM:

" Classy: You said it right! The Obamanites are the "blind leading the blind"!! "

classybabyboomer wrote on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 PM:

" When we don't and won't find the truth for ourselves, we will follow blindly..like cows to slaughter. Mr. Wilson talks a good game to those who are blind. "The blind leading the blind." "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 9, 2009 11:50 AM:

" I challenge you to produce one piece of correspondence from liberal so called legislators that is not an attack on liberty and freedom. Keep following, sheep. "

confisus_sum wrote on Nov 9, 2009 11:49 AM:

" Interesting how liberal lemmings attack a man for telling the truth. Read the house bill if you can, and see what Wilson said is 100% correct. But what would obamanites know about truth? "

Steve wrote on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM:

" You're far too kind to Joe Wilson, a self-indicted, self-convicted liar. And he's bad-mannered to boot. The comments from his knuckle-dragging, redneck supporters are worse. "



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